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		<title>By: qutequte</title>
		<link>http://www.frontporchrepublic.com/2009/03/against-monoculture/#comment-80728</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Nov 2010 07:49:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for sharing this!  The frightening thing now is that some 20 Million US Dollars is going to be thrown into monoculture to &quot;feed the hungry&quot;.  I felt sick after knowing this!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for sharing this!  The frightening thing now is that some 20 Million US Dollars is going to be thrown into monoculture to &#8220;feed the hungry&#8221;.  I felt sick after knowing this!</p>
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		<title>By: M. Simon</title>
		<link>http://www.frontporchrepublic.com/2009/03/against-monoculture/#comment-699</link>
		<dc:creator>M. Simon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Mar 2009 00:55:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Joel,

Of course the Polywell can&#039;t work. The US Navy has just commissioned version version WB-7.1 to do further research. The head researcher, Rick Nebel, says no show stoppers so far. Which is not to say it is a slam dunk. It all depends on the Wiffle Ball effect. Do the circulating currents choke off the loss channels? Can the electron losses be kept below 1E-5 per pass through the system? Another year or two of experiments should give us the answer. 

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And yes - reading lights are good. But you don&#039;t get civilization from reading lights. You get it by replacing human and animal energy slaves with inanimate energy slaves. That requires kilowatts per person not milliwatts. About a million times more power.  

If you think of microhydro as a starter system you are on the right track. It is not enough to run a full up advanced technological civilization at this time. 

==

BTW one thing many people don&#039;t seem to get is that well functioning technological systems are organic. They cannot properly be designed top down. Because a well functioning system is always looking for new ecological niches to fill. It is similar to the idea that the most interesting cities aren&#039;t planned. People just react to their local environment. The same way organs grow in the human body. A lot of sprawl is caused by zoning. Of course zoning separates production, sales, and living so a car becomes almost essential in colder climates. But in exchange for the rigidity of zoning we get a plan. 

Some how we got the idea that passing laws can fix things. Forgetting the fact that unintended consequences are the result of emergent qualities of a system that are very hard to predict. 

Who predicted that zoning commissions would lead to (or at least abet)  urban sprawl? And you know planning/zoning was at one time the progressive position. Get people into cleaner environments away from commerce.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joel,</p>
<p>Of course the Polywell can&#8217;t work. The US Navy has just commissioned version version WB-7.1 to do further research. The head researcher, Rick Nebel, says no show stoppers so far. Which is not to say it is a slam dunk. It all depends on the Wiffle Ball effect. Do the circulating currents choke off the loss channels? Can the electron losses be kept below 1E-5 per pass through the system? Another year or two of experiments should give us the answer. </p>
<p>===</p>
<p>And yes &#8211; reading lights are good. But you don&#8217;t get civilization from reading lights. You get it by replacing human and animal energy slaves with inanimate energy slaves. That requires kilowatts per person not milliwatts. About a million times more power.  </p>
<p>If you think of microhydro as a starter system you are on the right track. It is not enough to run a full up advanced technological civilization at this time. </p>
<p>==</p>
<p>BTW one thing many people don&#8217;t seem to get is that well functioning technological systems are organic. They cannot properly be designed top down. Because a well functioning system is always looking for new ecological niches to fill. It is similar to the idea that the most interesting cities aren&#8217;t planned. People just react to their local environment. The same way organs grow in the human body. A lot of sprawl is caused by zoning. Of course zoning separates production, sales, and living so a car becomes almost essential in colder climates. But in exchange for the rigidity of zoning we get a plan. </p>
<p>Some how we got the idea that passing laws can fix things. Forgetting the fact that unintended consequences are the result of emergent qualities of a system that are very hard to predict. </p>
<p>Who predicted that zoning commissions would lead to (or at least abet)  urban sprawl? And you know planning/zoning was at one time the progressive position. Get people into cleaner environments away from commerce.</p>
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		<title>By: Samuel Bass</title>
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		<dc:creator>Samuel Bass</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Mar 2009 22:14:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In response to Kevin at #25:  what of the grueling lifestyle and generally low education of the contemporary &quot;service worker,&quot; or, for that matter, office worker?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In response to Kevin at #25:  what of the grueling lifestyle and generally low education of the contemporary &#8220;service worker,&#8221; or, for that matter, office worker?</p>
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		<title>By: Samuel Bass</title>
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		<dc:creator>Samuel Bass</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Mar 2009 22:09:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is &quot;increased life expectancy&quot; an end in itself?  What is the life?  My grandfather got cancer in his early eighties, accepted mortality and died within a year or two.  His widow would have died in her sleep a few years later had some MD not convinced her of the need for an angioplasty and a pacemaker.  Her reward was fifteen years of dementia in a nursing home that sucked a once-respectably-sized family fortune (including a house and eight acres that had been in the family for 150 years)and innumerable tax dollars into some corporate coffer.  We are not equally long-lived:  the prolongation of &quot;life&quot; by mechanical and pharmaceutical means is just another form of monoculture.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is &#8220;increased life expectancy&#8221; an end in itself?  What is the life?  My grandfather got cancer in his early eighties, accepted mortality and died within a year or two.  His widow would have died in her sleep a few years later had some MD not convinced her of the need for an angioplasty and a pacemaker.  Her reward was fifteen years of dementia in a nursing home that sucked a once-respectably-sized family fortune (including a house and eight acres that had been in the family for 150 years)and innumerable tax dollars into some corporate coffer.  We are not equally long-lived:  the prolongation of &#8220;life&#8221; by mechanical and pharmaceutical means is just another form of monoculture.</p>
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		<title>By: Wellsy</title>
		<link>http://www.frontporchrepublic.com/2009/03/against-monoculture/#comment-680</link>
		<dc:creator>Wellsy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Mar 2009 16:37:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Michael DeMoor: But is it sustainable? It&#039;s wonderful if it serves us, but will it serve our grandchildren and generations beyond? Are we even capable of operating within that philosophy when we&#039;re only working to achieve the best possible efficiency for today?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Michael DeMoor: But is it sustainable? It&#8217;s wonderful if it serves us, but will it serve our grandchildren and generations beyond? Are we even capable of operating within that philosophy when we&#8217;re only working to achieve the best possible efficiency for today?</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kevin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Mar 2009 16:37:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well that&#039;s the trouble with monocultures, or with the instruments of modernity in general. They do in fact bring us good things: &quot;increased food security, increased life expectancy, fairer representative political institutions,&quot; and one could add unprecedented prosperity, near-elimination of humiliating drudgery--the list goes on and on. It&#039;s a Faustian bargain: no one would ever make a deal with the devil unless the devil had some really good things to offer.

The vulgar version of the embryonic stem cell debate, where it&#039;s reduced to a choice between curing Granny&#039;s Alzheimer&#039;s or saving a few embryos, works as a sort of morality play for this dilemma. In the real world, of course, embryonic stem cells are no magic bullet. But something like monoculture seems to have been. When, as a society, we made the decision to grow our food through industrial agriculture, we liberated most of our people from the grueling lifestyle (and generally low education level) of the private farmer.

We&#039;re living in the aftermath of that now; but who of us would have been willing to stop the process? The dream of perpetual progress may be illusory, but when there was real progress to be had, what arguments could we have raised to stop it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well that&#8217;s the trouble with monocultures, or with the instruments of modernity in general. They do in fact bring us good things: &#8220;increased food security, increased life expectancy, fairer representative political institutions,&#8221; and one could add unprecedented prosperity, near-elimination of humiliating drudgery&#8211;the list goes on and on. It&#8217;s a Faustian bargain: no one would ever make a deal with the devil unless the devil had some really good things to offer.</p>
<p>The vulgar version of the embryonic stem cell debate, where it&#8217;s reduced to a choice between curing Granny&#8217;s Alzheimer&#8217;s or saving a few embryos, works as a sort of morality play for this dilemma. In the real world, of course, embryonic stem cells are no magic bullet. But something like monoculture seems to have been. When, as a society, we made the decision to grow our food through industrial agriculture, we liberated most of our people from the grueling lifestyle (and generally low education level) of the private farmer.</p>
<p>We&#8217;re living in the aftermath of that now; but who of us would have been willing to stop the process? The dream of perpetual progress may be illusory, but when there was real progress to be had, what arguments could we have raised to stop it?</p>
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		<title>By: Michael DeMoor</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael DeMoor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Mar 2009 15:18:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Although I&#039;m in broad sympathy with your case against monocultures (and by extension &quot;bigness&quot; generally), I wonder if there is not something to be said for the increased efficiency that comes with scale, standarization and the like -- both economically and even politically.  I certainly wouldn&#039;t want to trumpet efficiency as a value in itself, but many of the genuine successes of modernity (increased food security, increased life expectancy, fairer representative political institutions, etc.) have been achieved (at least in part) by increases in efficiency that are possible only by creating common standards across disparate communities and by doing some things at a more-than-local scale.  Efficiency may be lousy as an end in itself, but it can be a genuine and significant instrumental good... perhaps even an indispensable one for achieving certain ends.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Although I&#8217;m in broad sympathy with your case against monocultures (and by extension &#8220;bigness&#8221; generally), I wonder if there is not something to be said for the increased efficiency that comes with scale, standarization and the like &#8212; both economically and even politically.  I certainly wouldn&#8217;t want to trumpet efficiency as a value in itself, but many of the genuine successes of modernity (increased food security, increased life expectancy, fairer representative political institutions, etc.) have been achieved (at least in part) by increases in efficiency that are possible only by creating common standards across disparate communities and by doing some things at a more-than-local scale.  Efficiency may be lousy as an end in itself, but it can be a genuine and significant instrumental good&#8230; perhaps even an indispensable one for achieving certain ends.</p>
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		<title>By: D.W. Sabin</title>
		<link>http://www.frontporchrepublic.com/2009/03/against-monoculture/#comment-677</link>
		<dc:creator>D.W. Sabin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Mar 2009 15:17:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ahhhh yes , the great Moloch Efficiency. With Efficient means of production comes an equally felicitous means of destruction. It is actually kind of a dare, begging an answer.

Your combining of Education, Agriculture and Finance into a discussion of the hazards of monoculture is sharp. Checks, balances and the Geneva Conventions were &quot;quaint&quot; anachronisms last year and would appear to still be considered quaint today. Big disasters resulting from Big Successes demand Big Solutions.
Meanwhile, any fundamental assessment of the underlying issues remain unexamined lest someone insult the Great Moloch Efficiency. Best to hand out pitchforks to the rabble to let off a little steam and keep the great fires of monodistraction burning.

Exactly why do we still laugh at the Lemmings?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ahhhh yes , the great Moloch Efficiency. With Efficient means of production comes an equally felicitous means of destruction. It is actually kind of a dare, begging an answer.</p>
<p>Your combining of Education, Agriculture and Finance into a discussion of the hazards of monoculture is sharp. Checks, balances and the Geneva Conventions were &#8220;quaint&#8221; anachronisms last year and would appear to still be considered quaint today. Big disasters resulting from Big Successes demand Big Solutions.<br />
Meanwhile, any fundamental assessment of the underlying issues remain unexamined lest someone insult the Great Moloch Efficiency. Best to hand out pitchforks to the rabble to let off a little steam and keep the great fires of monodistraction burning.</p>
<p>Exactly why do we still laugh at the Lemmings?</p>
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		<title>By: Patrick Deneen</title>
		<link>http://www.frontporchrepublic.com/2009/03/against-monoculture/#comment-672</link>
		<dc:creator>Patrick Deneen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Mar 2009 14:44:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mr. Morrell,
A great question and point.  Might it be said that the very apparent variety among individuals leads to a monoculture of culture - namely, the &quot;multicultural&quot; patchwork in which all humans are essentially to be the same, that is, relativist, tolerant, secular, liberal ironists?  Recall, Socrates relates that democracies are not able to punish criminals any longer - there is no right or wrong.  A &quot;live and let live&quot; culture ceases to be a culture in any distinctive sense.  It tends exactly toward political and social monoculture.

You should supplement your reading of Plato with more Tocqueville.  Tocqueville does not fear localisms; he encourages them, in the form of the cultivation of the &quot;arts of association.&quot;  His is a commendation of intermediate institutions of a wide variety, places where our voices matter, where we can find people with whom to speak and to whom to listen - where &quot;the heart is enlarged.&quot;

Of course, as you point out, the question then becomes, what constitutes &quot;local.&quot;  I think that&#039;s a more productive and interesting question than the current one, which is how do we accommodate ourselves to globalization.  It&#039;s a question without an easy answer, except that it involves a set of stable and longstanding relationships that exist over time and in a place.  Its number will vary, and it will include things so local as family, neighborhood, community, town, region, and nation, ultimately humanity - but that in order of relative importance.  It will involve prudence and negotiation, the hard work of politics and living together.  It&#039;s a question and problem that, in our age, we largely prefer to avoid, precisely because it&#039;s difficult.

Wellsy asks perhaps THE question - what is to be done?  I&#039;m not sure any of us here have THE answer, because there can be no single answer to so vast a challenge - anything that would be that comprehensive would be as bad as the challenge we face.  That said, a good number of people have been asking me just this - particularly in the wake of the launch of this site, which seems to have prompted the hope among some that there is sufficient critical mass in the nation to begin to advance some change on these issues - and so I hope, in coming weeks, to offer some suggestions, and will invite my fellow denizens of the Front Porch to do the same.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr. Morrell,<br />
A great question and point.  Might it be said that the very apparent variety among individuals leads to a monoculture of culture &#8211; namely, the &#8220;multicultural&#8221; patchwork in which all humans are essentially to be the same, that is, relativist, tolerant, secular, liberal ironists?  Recall, Socrates relates that democracies are not able to punish criminals any longer &#8211; there is no right or wrong.  A &#8220;live and let live&#8221; culture ceases to be a culture in any distinctive sense.  It tends exactly toward political and social monoculture.</p>
<p>You should supplement your reading of Plato with more Tocqueville.  Tocqueville does not fear localisms; he encourages them, in the form of the cultivation of the &#8220;arts of association.&#8221;  His is a commendation of intermediate institutions of a wide variety, places where our voices matter, where we can find people with whom to speak and to whom to listen &#8211; where &#8220;the heart is enlarged.&#8221;</p>
<p>Of course, as you point out, the question then becomes, what constitutes &#8220;local.&#8221;  I think that&#8217;s a more productive and interesting question than the current one, which is how do we accommodate ourselves to globalization.  It&#8217;s a question without an easy answer, except that it involves a set of stable and longstanding relationships that exist over time and in a place.  Its number will vary, and it will include things so local as family, neighborhood, community, town, region, and nation, ultimately humanity &#8211; but that in order of relative importance.  It will involve prudence and negotiation, the hard work of politics and living together.  It&#8217;s a question and problem that, in our age, we largely prefer to avoid, precisely because it&#8217;s difficult.</p>
<p>Wellsy asks perhaps THE question &#8211; what is to be done?  I&#8217;m not sure any of us here have THE answer, because there can be no single answer to so vast a challenge &#8211; anything that would be that comprehensive would be as bad as the challenge we face.  That said, a good number of people have been asking me just this &#8211; particularly in the wake of the launch of this site, which seems to have prompted the hope among some that there is sufficient critical mass in the nation to begin to advance some change on these issues &#8211; and so I hope, in coming weeks, to offer some suggestions, and will invite my fellow denizens of the Front Porch to do the same.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael E Morrell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael E Morrell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Mar 2009 14:13:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Reading this brought to mind words from Plato&#039;s Republic that we examined in my democratic theory course earlier in the semester. One of Plato&#039;s concerns about democracy is that the state becomes &quot;like an embroidered robe which is spangled with every sort of flower&quot; (Book VIII). Variety is the inevitable outcome of a state composed of lovers of freedom.

Yet you claim that one of the issues with modernity is the opposite tendency toward monoculture. As I understand what you have written elsewhere, democracy leads to a variety of practices and perspectives, yet this variety focuses primarily on individuals in ways that separate them from those around them, as well as from past traditions and future generations. At the same time, modernity imposes a monoculture that leads individuals to much more conformity than this description of variety may imply. The cure for these tendencies, if I understand you correctly, is the building up of local culture. 

If my interpretation is not completely off base, I wonder exactly how &quot;local&quot; a culture must be if it is to be a corrective for these tendencies. If too localized, it may end up reinforcing the separation from others that concerns Tocqueville. If it becomes too large, then it threatens, to use your agricultural analogy, the creation of a culture vulnerable to the pests and pathogens that could wipe it out. 

Wouldn&#039;t another concern also be that localized cultures can be &quot;mini-monocultures?&quot; I am limited in my understanding of agriculture, but I believe that the point of crop rotation is that you plant different crops in the same field. Local cultures may have the tendency to be just as monolithic in their locality as the global monoculture you describe.

As usual, your posting has provoked much thinking on my part; I appreciate it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Reading this brought to mind words from Plato&#8217;s Republic that we examined in my democratic theory course earlier in the semester. One of Plato&#8217;s concerns about democracy is that the state becomes &#8220;like an embroidered robe which is spangled with every sort of flower&#8221; (Book VIII). Variety is the inevitable outcome of a state composed of lovers of freedom.</p>
<p>Yet you claim that one of the issues with modernity is the opposite tendency toward monoculture. As I understand what you have written elsewhere, democracy leads to a variety of practices and perspectives, yet this variety focuses primarily on individuals in ways that separate them from those around them, as well as from past traditions and future generations. At the same time, modernity imposes a monoculture that leads individuals to much more conformity than this description of variety may imply. The cure for these tendencies, if I understand you correctly, is the building up of local culture. </p>
<p>If my interpretation is not completely off base, I wonder exactly how &#8220;local&#8221; a culture must be if it is to be a corrective for these tendencies. If too localized, it may end up reinforcing the separation from others that concerns Tocqueville. If it becomes too large, then it threatens, to use your agricultural analogy, the creation of a culture vulnerable to the pests and pathogens that could wipe it out. </p>
<p>Wouldn&#8217;t another concern also be that localized cultures can be &#8220;mini-monocultures?&#8221; I am limited in my understanding of agriculture, but I believe that the point of crop rotation is that you plant different crops in the same field. Local cultures may have the tendency to be just as monolithic in their locality as the global monoculture you describe.</p>
<p>As usual, your posting has provoked much thinking on my part; I appreciate it.</p>
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		<title>By: Wellsy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wellsy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Mar 2009 13:44:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree. We should accept the fact that there is a natural cap of efficiency, profit, and success, and understand that diversification is the key to long term survival in more areas than just one.

The question arises: how do we turn this thing around? How do we convince multi-billion dollar industries to rein it in, lower their sights, till up those corn fields, restructure their educational programs, and do whatever else that needs to be done, all for the sake of the greater good? History tells us nothing ever works like that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree. We should accept the fact that there is a natural cap of efficiency, profit, and success, and understand that diversification is the key to long term survival in more areas than just one.</p>
<p>The question arises: how do we turn this thing around? How do we convince multi-billion dollar industries to rein it in, lower their sights, till up those corn fields, restructure their educational programs, and do whatever else that needs to be done, all for the sake of the greater good? History tells us nothing ever works like that.</p>
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		<title>By: Susan Kishner</title>
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		<dc:creator>Susan Kishner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Mar 2009 05:36:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for posting the article, was certainly a great read!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for posting the article, was certainly a great read!</p>
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