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		<title>By: Thomas O. Meehan</title>
		<link>http://www.frontporchrepublic.com/2009/03/beer-and-civic-life/#comment-34151</link>
		<dc:creator>Thomas O. Meehan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Apr 2010 05:01:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The old gal had it wrong.  It&#039;s free Ale = Democracy.</description>
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		<title>By: Jed</title>
		<link>http://www.frontporchrepublic.com/2009/03/beer-and-civic-life/#comment-32275</link>
		<dc:creator>Jed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Mar 2010 04:02:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I knew a wise woman who once wrote &quot;Free beer = democracy.&quot;</description>
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		<title>By: patrick</title>
		<link>http://www.frontporchrepublic.com/2009/03/beer-and-civic-life/#comment-31517</link>
		<dc:creator>patrick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Mar 2010 20:35:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>americans are drinking more bottled water because much, much, more of our water is bottled than ever before.  the main competitor to bottled water isn&#039;t bottled beer, but plain old tap water.  you point out that water is marketed as a product for individual health, but the point of these advertisements is to get people to buy bottled water for their healthy lifestyles instead of getting the same product from the tap for practically nothing.  

The point is, people are giving up tap water for bottle water, which probably has nothing to do with how often people drink beer (or, more importantly, how often they drink beer with other people.  this is to say nothing of the fact that bottled water is also replacing tap water in social environments like restaurants).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>americans are drinking more bottled water because much, much, more of our water is bottled than ever before.  the main competitor to bottled water isn&#8217;t bottled beer, but plain old tap water.  you point out that water is marketed as a product for individual health, but the point of these advertisements is to get people to buy bottled water for their healthy lifestyles instead of getting the same product from the tap for practically nothing.  </p>
<p>The point is, people are giving up tap water for bottle water, which probably has nothing to do with how often people drink beer (or, more importantly, how often they drink beer with other people.  this is to say nothing of the fact that bottled water is also replacing tap water in social environments like restaurants).</p>
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		<title>By: Thomas O.  Meehan</title>
		<link>http://www.frontporchrepublic.com/2009/03/beer-and-civic-life/#comment-1508</link>
		<dc:creator>Thomas O.  Meehan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Apr 2009 04:40:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oona, beware of inorganic beer!  My friend Hank Hill says, &quot;If it doesn&#039;t make you burp and bloat, it ain&#039;t real beer&quot;!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oona, beware of inorganic beer!  My friend Hank Hill says, &#8220;If it doesn&#8217;t make you burp and bloat, it ain&#8217;t real beer&#8221;!</p>
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		<title>By: Oona</title>
		<link>http://www.frontporchrepublic.com/2009/03/beer-and-civic-life/#comment-1500</link>
		<dc:creator>Oona</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Apr 2009 00:22:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What about virtual beer?  A while ago it became popular for five minutes to give people drinks on facebook.  That is the end, end of the public domain, no?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What about virtual beer?  A while ago it became popular for five minutes to give people drinks on facebook.  That is the end, end of the public domain, no?</p>
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		<title>By: William Burns</title>
		<link>http://www.frontporchrepublic.com/2009/03/beer-and-civic-life/#comment-546</link>
		<dc:creator>William Burns</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Mar 2009 12:31:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This argument as presented makes no sense.  What is the evidence that bottled water is increasing at the expense of beer?  Perhaps beer is declining relative to wine and cocktails, and bottled water gaining at the expense of tap water and soft drinks.  As a trend story, this is at a David Brooks level of analysis.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This argument as presented makes no sense.  What is the evidence that bottled water is increasing at the expense of beer?  Perhaps beer is declining relative to wine and cocktails, and bottled water gaining at the expense of tap water and soft drinks.  As a trend story, this is at a David Brooks level of analysis.</p>
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		<title>By: JJM</title>
		<link>http://www.frontporchrepublic.com/2009/03/beer-and-civic-life/#comment-536</link>
		<dc:creator>JJM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Mar 2009 18:53:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I liked this post better when it was called &quot;Bowling Alone.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I liked this post better when it was called &#8220;Bowling Alone.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Russell Arben Fox</title>
		<link>http://www.frontporchrepublic.com/2009/03/beer-and-civic-life/#comment-527</link>
		<dc:creator>Russell Arben Fox</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Mar 2009 13:02:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Us teetotalers have to find substitutes to keep our civic engines well lubricated. I recommend a good bbq sauce.</description>
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		<title>By: Thomas O. Meehan</title>
		<link>http://www.frontporchrepublic.com/2009/03/beer-and-civic-life/#comment-515</link>
		<dc:creator>Thomas O. Meehan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Mar 2009 20:01:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A good general point but there are some tangential elements to consider.
  
1. People have been terrorized for a generation about toxins in drinking water.  It&#039;s bogus but people do believe it.

2. The chlorine we put in tap water to make it safe also makes it taste awful.

3. The myth that we are all seriously dehydrated has only recently been debunked.  I suspect many people still believe it, particularly young women who drink vast quantities of bottled water as an aid to dieting.  

3. The Mothers Against Drunken Driving crusade against tipplers has banished the joy of going out for a drink in many areas of the country.    I suggest you start &quot;Mothers against Perrier&quot;immediately!  But seriously,the draconian crackdown of DUI enforcement has gone beyond all reason and, like the War on Drugs, is used by the authorities as a revenue source.  

On a positive note, is the growth of local micro-breweries, and brew pubs.  Craft brewing is reviving a great tradition and does encourage Localism.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A good general point but there are some tangential elements to consider.</p>
<p>1. People have been terrorized for a generation about toxins in drinking water.  It&#8217;s bogus but people do believe it.</p>
<p>2. The chlorine we put in tap water to make it safe also makes it taste awful.</p>
<p>3. The myth that we are all seriously dehydrated has only recently been debunked.  I suspect many people still believe it, particularly young women who drink vast quantities of bottled water as an aid to dieting.  </p>
<p>3. The Mothers Against Drunken Driving crusade against tipplers has banished the joy of going out for a drink in many areas of the country.    I suggest you start &#8220;Mothers against Perrier&#8221;immediately!  But seriously,the draconian crackdown of DUI enforcement has gone beyond all reason and, like the War on Drugs, is used by the authorities as a revenue source.  </p>
<p>On a positive note, is the growth of local micro-breweries, and brew pubs.  Craft brewing is reviving a great tradition and does encourage Localism.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Shiffman</title>
		<link>http://www.frontporchrepublic.com/2009/03/beer-and-civic-life/#comment-512</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark Shiffman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Mar 2009 19:29:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think Sam M&#039;s got it all backward.  I know I&#039;m not the only person who would not drink beer at all if Schlitz and such were the only option (I&#039;d be sipping the liquid peat smoke with D.W.), so I have to think that some tasteful variety can only help consumption levels.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think Sam M&#8217;s got it all backward.  I know I&#8217;m not the only person who would not drink beer at all if Schlitz and such were the only option (I&#8217;d be sipping the liquid peat smoke with D.W.), so I have to think that some tasteful variety can only help consumption levels.</p>
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		<title>By: Nathan P. Origer</title>
		<link>http://www.frontporchrepublic.com/2009/03/beer-and-civic-life/#comment-511</link>
		<dc:creator>Nathan P. Origer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Mar 2009 18:56:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Belloc: Better beer and a greater choice would result from penalizing the large brewery and with the revenue subsidizing the small one, down to the cottage brewer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Belloc: Better beer and a greater choice would result from penalizing the large brewery and with the revenue subsidizing the small one, down to the cottage brewer.</p>
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		<title>By: D.W. Sabin</title>
		<link>http://www.frontporchrepublic.com/2009/03/beer-and-civic-life/#comment-505</link>
		<dc:creator>D.W. Sabin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Mar 2009 17:12:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, but the resurgence in all manner of boutique concoctions leaves a glimmer of hope for vox unpopulari. Although I myself am voluntarily consigned to spiritous purgatory as a result of receiving too many birthday cards from the Isle of Islay than is prudent, Sonny boy showed me how far the brewers art has come in this country by producing an ale from Alaska, fermented with the sweet new buds of tender Spruce. A nation of six fresh water faucets for each citizen, that then goes off merrily and buys water bottled from same faucets for something exceeding the cost of milk.....well, it dasn&#039;t deserve beer. I once read an article somewhere that went to epic lengths extolling the rise in &quot;Designer Waters&quot;. This little bit of dramatic hyperbole was perhaps but another banner waved by our &quot;Designer Education&quot;. 

Smoke, newspapers and spiritous liquors in decline......no wonder the economy is beginning to look like a Nevada Playa without the recreational chalets at yon end of valley. Perhaps the general obliteration of inhibitions in this congenitally amateur culture where sybaritic rites involve television, makes beer only good for hangovers. 

I shall have the afternoon cheroot in honor of your August Good Sense Ms. McWilliams, before lighting the bonfire in our annual pagan ritual of burning of the Christmas Tree on the First Weekend after March 20. If only somebody had some Spruce Bud Ale now, we would attempt to pervert the general trends.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, but the resurgence in all manner of boutique concoctions leaves a glimmer of hope for vox unpopulari. Although I myself am voluntarily consigned to spiritous purgatory as a result of receiving too many birthday cards from the Isle of Islay than is prudent, Sonny boy showed me how far the brewers art has come in this country by producing an ale from Alaska, fermented with the sweet new buds of tender Spruce. A nation of six fresh water faucets for each citizen, that then goes off merrily and buys water bottled from same faucets for something exceeding the cost of milk&#8230;..well, it dasn&#8217;t deserve beer. I once read an article somewhere that went to epic lengths extolling the rise in &#8220;Designer Waters&#8221;. This little bit of dramatic hyperbole was perhaps but another banner waved by our &#8220;Designer Education&#8221;. </p>
<p>Smoke, newspapers and spiritous liquors in decline&#8230;&#8230;no wonder the economy is beginning to look like a Nevada Playa without the recreational chalets at yon end of valley. Perhaps the general obliteration of inhibitions in this congenitally amateur culture where sybaritic rites involve television, makes beer only good for hangovers. </p>
<p>I shall have the afternoon cheroot in honor of your August Good Sense Ms. McWilliams, before lighting the bonfire in our annual pagan ritual of burning of the Christmas Tree on the First Weekend after March 20. If only somebody had some Spruce Bud Ale now, we would attempt to pervert the general trends.</p>
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		<title>By: Sam M</title>
		<link>http://www.frontporchrepublic.com/2009/03/beer-and-civic-life/#comment-488</link>
		<dc:creator>Sam M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Mar 2009 03:12:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Perhaps we can blame the modern thirst for &quot;good beer&quot;? I mean, seriously. Do you need a $16 Belgian to do the trick? In the good old days of America as a &quot;place,&quot; a Schlitz and a pretzel was all you needed to get a conversation rolling with the Joneses. Now weveryone is BS in about whose hops trump whose barley.

Methinks this all became way to precious a long time ago. Sorry, Anchor Steam. Gimme a Miller Lite.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Perhaps we can blame the modern thirst for &#8220;good beer&#8221;? I mean, seriously. Do you need a $16 Belgian to do the trick? In the good old days of America as a &#8220;place,&#8221; a Schlitz and a pretzel was all you needed to get a conversation rolling with the Joneses. Now weveryone is BS in about whose hops trump whose barley.</p>
<p>Methinks this all became way to precious a long time ago. Sorry, Anchor Steam. Gimme a Miller Lite.</p>
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		<title>By: polistra</title>
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		<dc:creator>polistra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Mar 2009 20:55:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The same thing could be said of tobacco, which is also a
good socializer.  Serious totalitarians always try to
remove natural socializers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The same thing could be said of tobacco, which is also a<br />
good socializer.  Serious totalitarians always try to<br />
remove natural socializers.</p>
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		<title>By: W</title>
		<link>http://www.frontporchrepublic.com/2009/03/beer-and-civic-life/#comment-477</link>
		<dc:creator>W</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Mar 2009 20:50:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry, Susan, but your thesis can be disproved by three words: &#039;Germany&#039; &amp;  &#039;Czech Republic.&#039;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry, Susan, but your thesis can be disproved by three words: &#8216;Germany&#8217; &amp;  &#8216;Czech Republic.&#8217;</p>
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		<title>By: X-Cathedra</title>
		<link>http://www.frontporchrepublic.com/2009/03/beer-and-civic-life/#comment-476</link>
		<dc:creator>X-Cathedra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Mar 2009 20:24:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Prophetic!!!</description>
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		<title>By: JD</title>
		<link>http://www.frontporchrepublic.com/2009/03/beer-and-civic-life/#comment-474</link>
		<dc:creator>JD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Mar 2009 18:42:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Save the Republic!  Drink!</description>
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		<title>By: James Matthew Wilson</title>
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		<dc:creator>James Matthew Wilson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Mar 2009 18:21:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Splendid!

But where was the obligatory Chesterton reference?</description>
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<p>But where was the obligatory Chesterton reference?</p>
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