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	<title>Comments on: Canon Fodder I:  Uncle Remus</title>
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		<title>By: D.W. Sabin</title>
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		<dc:creator>D.W. Sabin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 May 2009 20:24:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, I think the disquiet over the use of the term &quot;tarbaby&quot; stemmed from the fact that it provides an easily comprehensible description of our dealings in the Levant and points eastward, thus jeopardizing the continuing prosecution of the national shamfest: WhackaWogapallooza. This would not be good for business...best to keep it murky and confusing. It even had a secondary allusion to our narcotic of choice: the Middle-Eastern Oil Field...another strike against it. Why offer the public a simple concept that is easily understood when you can maintain sneaking suspicions and so keep up the general campaign of paranoid loathing at a simmering ?

After all, racial linguistics have more directly useful terms to run up the pole of righteous stupidity like the time a few years ago when some really idiotic and racially-enflamed morons rendered objection to the use of the word &quot;niggardly&quot; as though it meant &quot;to be as though niggar&quot;. I do not make these things up, they occur with a regularity that, unfortunately... is the opposite of niggardly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, I think the disquiet over the use of the term &#8220;tarbaby&#8221; stemmed from the fact that it provides an easily comprehensible description of our dealings in the Levant and points eastward, thus jeopardizing the continuing prosecution of the national shamfest: WhackaWogapallooza. This would not be good for business&#8230;best to keep it murky and confusing. It even had a secondary allusion to our narcotic of choice: the Middle-Eastern Oil Field&#8230;another strike against it. Why offer the public a simple concept that is easily understood when you can maintain sneaking suspicions and so keep up the general campaign of paranoid loathing at a simmering ?</p>
<p>After all, racial linguistics have more directly useful terms to run up the pole of righteous stupidity like the time a few years ago when some really idiotic and racially-enflamed morons rendered objection to the use of the word &#8220;niggardly&#8221; as though it meant &#8220;to be as though niggar&#8221;. I do not make these things up, they occur with a regularity that, unfortunately&#8230; is the opposite of niggardly.</p>
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		<title>By: Katherine Dalton</title>
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		<dc:creator>Katherine Dalton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 May 2009 19:09:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not long ago John McCain was called racist for using the term &quot;tar baby&quot; in a sentence.  He meant a situation from which one cannot extract oneself, but he was taken by some to be using a derogatory term for a black person.  It&#039;s nuts and unfair, but it&#039;s one of the things that will happen when the origin of the term has been forgotten, because the stories are forgotten, and a secondary meaning is all that&#039;s left.  

I do think, though, that with Julius Lester&#039;s versions (and he is black), and the Jump! series which has terrific illustrations, that the books are selling and being read privately.  How often a librarian reads them at school is another matter; here and there, but not everywhere.  That shouldn&#039;t matter--we shouldn&#039;t be dependent on school for our childhood reading--but of course so many kids only get the electronic babysitter at home.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not long ago John McCain was called racist for using the term &#8220;tar baby&#8221; in a sentence.  He meant a situation from which one cannot extract oneself, but he was taken by some to be using a derogatory term for a black person.  It&#8217;s nuts and unfair, but it&#8217;s one of the things that will happen when the origin of the term has been forgotten, because the stories are forgotten, and a secondary meaning is all that&#8217;s left.  </p>
<p>I do think, though, that with Julius Lester&#8217;s versions (and he is black), and the Jump! series which has terrific illustrations, that the books are selling and being read privately.  How often a librarian reads them at school is another matter; here and there, but not everywhere.  That shouldn&#8217;t matter&#8211;we shouldn&#8217;t be dependent on school for our childhood reading&#8211;but of course so many kids only get the electronic babysitter at home.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim Donaldson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim Donaldson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 May 2009 14:25:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice article. A few years ago I was in my local library talking to one of the clerks when he mentioned that he was in the process of re-writing Uncle Remus to &quot;remove the racist elements&quot; such as  Uncle Remus&#039; dialect, etc. I couldn&#039;t believe he was serious. My response was to ask him if he so lacked creativity that he couldn&#039;t write his own stories? And also why he was determined to change a character as respected (yes, respected) as Uncle Remus? His reply was to call me a racist! But he was the one eliminating a very great work of black culture (which it is, despite it being transmitted by a white man) through his political correctness. It was not possible for him to perceive how wrong it was to do that. It didn&#039;t fit the agenda. To him, and all his kind, the end justifies the means, no matter how destructive.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice article. A few years ago I was in my local library talking to one of the clerks when he mentioned that he was in the process of re-writing Uncle Remus to &#8220;remove the racist elements&#8221; such as  Uncle Remus&#8217; dialect, etc. I couldn&#8217;t believe he was serious. My response was to ask him if he so lacked creativity that he couldn&#8217;t write his own stories? And also why he was determined to change a character as respected (yes, respected) as Uncle Remus? His reply was to call me a racist! But he was the one eliminating a very great work of black culture (which it is, despite it being transmitted by a white man) through his political correctness. It was not possible for him to perceive how wrong it was to do that. It didn&#8217;t fit the agenda. To him, and all his kind, the end justifies the means, no matter how destructive.</p>
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		<title>By: kevin foster</title>
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		<dc:creator>kevin foster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 May 2009 14:13:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>the loss of uncle remus is one of the great tragedies of political correctness. my nana (a first generation irish-american born in 1900) used to read us these stories from what was a dog-eared volume even back then in the &#039;50s and &#039;60s; like d.w.&#039;s mom, she brought these stories to life with her spirited readings, and they made an indelible mark on me. it always saddens me when i run into yet another younger person who looks blankly at my references to tar babies; it&#039;s such a brilliant shorthand for such a common pitfall of human relations, it really should be mandatory reading. instead, our children get &quot;susie has 2 mommies.&quot; :(</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the loss of uncle remus is one of the great tragedies of political correctness. my nana (a first generation irish-american born in 1900) used to read us these stories from what was a dog-eared volume even back then in the &#8217;50s and &#8217;60s; like d.w.&#8217;s mom, she brought these stories to life with her spirited readings, and they made an indelible mark on me. it always saddens me when i run into yet another younger person who looks blankly at my references to tar babies; it&#8217;s such a brilliant shorthand for such a common pitfall of human relations, it really should be mandatory reading. instead, our children get &#8220;susie has 2 mommies.&#8221; :(</p>
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		<title>By: Katherine Dalton</title>
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		<dc:creator>Katherine Dalton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 May 2009 01:30:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, these stories have pull.  I don&#039;t know that old Disney version, Mr. Pilgrim, but it sounds to me like all you need is a good bookbinder.  

Florida State University has a very good article online from 1998 which, among other things, includes an interview with an African American storyteller who has had all kinds of trouble trying to tell Remus tales to black audiences.  (I can&#039;t remember how to add a hyperlink tonight.  But google Harris and FSU.)  She persists, though.  

I thought I was right about college students, Mark; I&#039;ve heard similar stories here.  Next time you teach Ellison I think you should, in charity, assign some Remus tales, and if the college&#039;s endowment is still way down I&#039;ll pay for the xeroxing.  But you&#039;d better be careful about teaching one son to look to Brer Rabbit for ideas on how to deal with another.  When he asks you if he can boil some water, watch out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, these stories have pull.  I don&#8217;t know that old Disney version, Mr. Pilgrim, but it sounds to me like all you need is a good bookbinder.  </p>
<p>Florida State University has a very good article online from 1998 which, among other things, includes an interview with an African American storyteller who has had all kinds of trouble trying to tell Remus tales to black audiences.  (I can&#8217;t remember how to add a hyperlink tonight.  But google Harris and FSU.)  She persists, though.  </p>
<p>I thought I was right about college students, Mark; I&#8217;ve heard similar stories here.  Next time you teach Ellison I think you should, in charity, assign some Remus tales, and if the college&#8217;s endowment is still way down I&#8217;ll pay for the xeroxing.  But you&#8217;d better be careful about teaching one son to look to Brer Rabbit for ideas on how to deal with another.  When he asks you if he can boil some water, watch out.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Kauffman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill Kauffman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Apr 2009 15:37:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very nice, Kate. Coincidentally, I just came across this line in Robert J. Norrell&#039;s new biography Up from History: The Life of Booker T. Washington: &quot;Washington liked the symbolic message of wisdom and kindness about blacks in Joel Chandler Harris&#039;s Uncle Remus stories in the Constitution.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very nice, Kate. Coincidentally, I just came across this line in Robert J. Norrell&#8217;s new biography Up from History: The Life of Booker T. Washington: &#8220;Washington liked the symbolic message of wisdom and kindness about blacks in Joel Chandler Harris&#8217;s Uncle Remus stories in the Constitution.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: D.W. Sabin</title>
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		<dc:creator>D.W. Sabin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Apr 2009 15:00:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And regarding charges of racism in the use of local dialect: Poppycock..in extremis...anybody who asserts that is either tone-deaf or so politically correct that they think their arse is as important as their head....perhaps, in their case, because of proximity.

Local dialect is the picture window of great literature. Expressing it well demonstrates a love for the speaker. As an example of it&#039;s fundamental equal rights, I offer the following:

My mother in law Marion and her second husband Seymour (&quot;Seeeemwwwwoooor&quot;) were on a trip in Alabama  in a rented RV with their friends Bernie and Rose and after they had yakety yakked for a while and ordered their food in their proud Brooklyn and Bronx accents , the Black waitress delivered their dinners and said :

&quot;I jess looooove yur cute lil ole aiiccents&quot;

Shut my mouth.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And regarding charges of racism in the use of local dialect: Poppycock..in extremis&#8230;anybody who asserts that is either tone-deaf or so politically correct that they think their arse is as important as their head&#8230;.perhaps, in their case, because of proximity.</p>
<p>Local dialect is the picture window of great literature. Expressing it well demonstrates a love for the speaker. As an example of it&#8217;s fundamental equal rights, I offer the following:</p>
<p>My mother in law Marion and her second husband Seymour (&#8220;Seeeemwwwwoooor&#8221;) were on a trip in Alabama  in a rented RV with their friends Bernie and Rose and after they had yakety yakked for a while and ordered their food in their proud Brooklyn and Bronx accents , the Black waitress delivered their dinners and said :</p>
<p>&#8220;I jess looooove yur cute lil ole aiiccents&#8221;</p>
<p>Shut my mouth.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Shiffman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark Shiffman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Apr 2009 14:46:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>These were probably my favorite stories when I was a wee lad.  In fact I just recently did my best to retell the briar patch story to my older son, to give him a strategy for dealing with a younger brother who doggedly exploits any opening to do whatever will aggravate him the most.  (I think as a result of this post there may be a run on the used booksellers.)

A few years ago when I taught Ellison&#039;s Invisible Man, I realized how helpful it would have been if my students knew these stories.  Ellison&#039;s protagonist, in trying to wrench his self-image out of its tidy spot in the progressive narrative of the liberal white northeastern establishment, finds one of his best psychic resources in Brer Rabbit and Brer Bear, which belong to his black and southern heritage.  Like the authentic blues, which presents a whole tragicomic vision of life, these stories encapsulate for Ellison a view that regards human nature with a combination of sly realism and boundless good humor.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>These were probably my favorite stories when I was a wee lad.  In fact I just recently did my best to retell the briar patch story to my older son, to give him a strategy for dealing with a younger brother who doggedly exploits any opening to do whatever will aggravate him the most.  (I think as a result of this post there may be a run on the used booksellers.)</p>
<p>A few years ago when I taught Ellison&#8217;s Invisible Man, I realized how helpful it would have been if my students knew these stories.  Ellison&#8217;s protagonist, in trying to wrench his self-image out of its tidy spot in the progressive narrative of the liberal white northeastern establishment, finds one of his best psychic resources in Brer Rabbit and Brer Bear, which belong to his black and southern heritage.  Like the authentic blues, which presents a whole tragicomic vision of life, these stories encapsulate for Ellison a view that regards human nature with a combination of sly realism and boundless good humor.</p>
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		<title>By: D.W. Sabin</title>
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		<dc:creator>D.W. Sabin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Apr 2009 14:44:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You have me here blubbering into my elicit banana bread Ms. Dalton. Two things stand out from my childhood...besides the crazed antics of two older brothers and a much younger sister. My mother Babs was a fantastic bedtime reader. She played the parts to the hilt and gave as good a hat tip to the crucial narrative aspect of dialog as anybody. She read Winnie the Pooh and Uncle Remus, giving all the characters unique voices that made these complex stories come fully alive. I can hear it all now, years after she departed. It is little wonder that I have such a fondness for curmudgeons after she gave Ehor such a fine baritone dejected languor. It suited me because she always told me I was &quot;born old&quot;. 

What we refer to as my &quot;unfortunate gnenetic proclivity as a result of being born in Utah:Republicanism....or as we now call it, Recovering Republican&quot;...... must surely be from the early readings of Remus along with orders at around age ten or eleven to go off with the Salt Lake Tribune and a dictionary, read William F. Buckley and report back to her what was said. 

These are the roots of the creation of a monster. Throw me in the briar patch indeed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You have me here blubbering into my elicit banana bread Ms. Dalton. Two things stand out from my childhood&#8230;besides the crazed antics of two older brothers and a much younger sister. My mother Babs was a fantastic bedtime reader. She played the parts to the hilt and gave as good a hat tip to the crucial narrative aspect of dialog as anybody. She read Winnie the Pooh and Uncle Remus, giving all the characters unique voices that made these complex stories come fully alive. I can hear it all now, years after she departed. It is little wonder that I have such a fondness for curmudgeons after she gave Ehor such a fine baritone dejected languor. It suited me because she always told me I was &#8220;born old&#8221;. </p>
<p>What we refer to as my &#8220;unfortunate gnenetic proclivity as a result of being born in Utah:Republicanism&#8230;.or as we now call it, Recovering Republican&#8221;&#8230;&#8230; must surely be from the early readings of Remus along with orders at around age ten or eleven to go off with the Salt Lake Tribune and a dictionary, read William F. Buckley and report back to her what was said. </p>
<p>These are the roots of the creation of a monster. Throw me in the briar patch indeed.</p>
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		<title>By: Russell Arben Fox</title>
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		<dc:creator>Russell Arben Fox</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Apr 2009 14:11:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don&#039;t mention Disney in connection with the wonderful, crazy, old Uncle Remus stories, Weasly Pilgrim! As a serious fan of Old School Disney, I&#039;m still mad about the refusel of the Politically Correct New Money Disney to release the film on DVD here in the U.S.

A fine post, Katherine; thank you for it. I&#039;ve never read the original Harris stories--only know about them through various reprints and excerpts. It&#039;s time I exposed myself to them in full! A goal for the summer, perhaps.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t mention Disney in connection with the wonderful, crazy, old Uncle Remus stories, Weasly Pilgrim! As a serious fan of Old School Disney, I&#8217;m still mad about the refusel of the Politically Correct New Money Disney to release the film on DVD here in the U.S.</p>
<p>A fine post, Katherine; thank you for it. I&#8217;ve never read the original Harris stories&#8211;only know about them through various reprints and excerpts. It&#8217;s time I exposed myself to them in full! A goal for the summer, perhaps.</p>
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		<title>By: Weasly Pilgrim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Weasly Pilgrim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Apr 2009 13:38:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for this article!  I can claim no southern roots at all (my family has been in south-central Pennsylvania/north-eastern Ohio since my ancestors came over on the boat in the early 1700s), but the Uncle Remus stories were part of the literary canon in my home while I was growing up.  They still are.  My parents had a big Disney book with some of the stories (&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/3094800.Walt_Disney_s_Uncle_Remus_Stories&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;the 1947 Golden Book hard-cover&lt;/a&gt;), and it still gets pulled out and read aloud to general acclaim many times when we are together as a family.  The book itself is falling apart—the binding is broken, the pages are loose—but it is considered a family treasure.  I do not know how closely this edition adheres to the source material; I do know that my siblings and I are each hoping we end up with the book if and when my parents downsize.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for this article!  I can claim no southern roots at all (my family has been in south-central Pennsylvania/north-eastern Ohio since my ancestors came over on the boat in the early 1700s), but the Uncle Remus stories were part of the literary canon in my home while I was growing up.  They still are.  My parents had a big Disney book with some of the stories (<a href="http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/3094800.Walt_Disney_s_Uncle_Remus_Stories" rel="nofollow">the 1947 Golden Book hard-cover</a>), and it still gets pulled out and read aloud to general acclaim many times when we are together as a family.  The book itself is falling apart—the binding is broken, the pages are loose—but it is considered a family treasure.  I do not know how closely this edition adheres to the source material; I do know that my siblings and I are each hoping we end up with the book if and when my parents downsize.</p>
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