Comments on: Holy Week: The Image of the Phoenix http://www.frontporchrepublic.com/2009/04/holy-week-the-image-of-the-phoenix/ Place. Limits. Liberty. Thu, 09 Feb 2012 05:09:13 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v= By: The world needs the Prince of Peace « for the LOVE of DAYTON http://www.frontporchrepublic.com/2009/04/holy-week-the-image-of-the-phoenix/#comment-1212 The world needs the Prince of Peace « for the LOVE of DAYTON Sun, 12 Apr 2009 05:03:03 +0000 http://www.frontporchrepublic.com/?p=2324#comment-1212 [...] The Image of the Phoenix [...] [...] The Image of the Phoenix [...]

]]> By: Stewart K Lundy http://www.frontporchrepublic.com/2009/04/holy-week-the-image-of-the-phoenix/#comment-1115 Stewart K Lundy Thu, 09 Apr 2009 13:33:54 +0000 http://www.frontporchrepublic.com/?p=2324#comment-1115 You're right. This should be one of the lies of the poets which Plato swallows. Their detached immortality is there, but with a vulnerability and corporeality which is dissolved later. In Homer, their immortality is essential, but regarding their origins, less so. Yes, they are immortal in Homer, but they are still vulnerable, a remnant of their mortal origins. You’re right. This should be one of the lies of the poets which Plato swallows. Their detached immortality is there, but with a vulnerability and corporeality which is dissolved later. In Homer, their immortality is essential, but regarding their origins, less so. Yes, they are immortal in Homer, but they are still vulnerable, a remnant of their mortal origins.

]]> By: Mark Shiffman http://www.frontporchrepublic.com/2009/04/holy-week-the-image-of-the-phoenix/#comment-1114 Mark Shiffman Thu, 09 Apr 2009 13:18:53 +0000 http://www.frontporchrepublic.com/?p=2324#comment-1114 Don't blame philosophy for turning the Greek gods into immortals. They are already this in Homer, even if vulnerable to wounds. This is important to understanding their motives throughout the story. They are invested in the mortality of mortals, but they have much less at stake in their desire for glory. For the mortals, glory is compensation for death; for the gods, it is more a matter of vanity. Don’t blame philosophy for turning the Greek gods into immortals. They are already this in Homer, even if vulnerable to wounds. This is important to understanding their motives throughout the story. They are invested in the mortality of mortals, but they have much less at stake in their desire for glory. For the mortals, glory is compensation for death; for the gods, it is more a matter of vanity.

]]> By: Bill http://www.frontporchrepublic.com/2009/04/holy-week-the-image-of-the-phoenix/#comment-1030 Bill Tue, 07 Apr 2009 03:09:09 +0000 http://www.frontporchrepublic.com/?p=2324#comment-1030 Let's not confuse being born again in Christ with reincarnation. One views the soul as singular, finite and corporal while the other is indefinite, mystic and unspecific. Very nice article SKL. Let’s not confuse being born again in Christ with reincarnation. One views the soul as singular, finite and corporal while the other is indefinite, mystic and unspecific.

Very nice article SKL.

]]> By: Stewart K Lundy http://www.frontporchrepublic.com/2009/04/holy-week-the-image-of-the-phoenix/#comment-1027 Stewart K Lundy Tue, 07 Apr 2009 01:00:31 +0000 http://www.frontporchrepublic.com/?p=2324#comment-1027 Hi, Bart. The simplest way to explain this "muddling" is this: to be re-born is to be re-incarnate. Being reborn is inextricably tied to a new incarnation (re-incarnation). Does this make more sense in the context of Easter, resurrection, and the promise of "new bodies"? Hi, Bart. The simplest way to explain this “muddling” is this: to be re-born is to be re-incarnate. Being reborn is inextricably tied to a new incarnation (re-incarnation). Does this make more sense in the context of Easter, resurrection, and the promise of “new bodies”?

]]> By: Bart http://www.frontporchrepublic.com/2009/04/holy-week-the-image-of-the-phoenix/#comment-1023 Bart Mon, 06 Apr 2009 22:27:47 +0000 http://www.frontporchrepublic.com/?p=2324#comment-1023 Stewart, you seem to muddle the difference between rebirth (which I associate more with the word "redemption") with reincarnation. Could you clarify what you mean so that I don't have to denounce you as a heretic? The fun thing about Front Porchers is that they all have pitchforks. ... Kidding! Stewart, you seem to muddle the difference between rebirth (which I associate more with the word “redemption”) with reincarnation. Could you clarify what you mean so that I don’t have to denounce you as a heretic? The fun thing about Front Porchers is that they all have pitchforks.

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Kidding!

]]> By: Bob Cheeks http://www.frontporchrepublic.com/2009/04/holy-week-the-image-of-the-phoenix/#comment-1013 Bob Cheeks Mon, 06 Apr 2009 20:20:28 +0000 http://www.frontporchrepublic.com/?p=2324#comment-1013 "History is a pattern of timeless moments....the point of intersection of the timeless with time." T.S. Eliot, Four Quartets Which may explain why my wife reads the Divine Hours. “History is a pattern of timeless moments….the point of intersection of the timeless with time.” T.S. Eliot, Four Quartets
Which may explain why my wife reads the Divine Hours.

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