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		<title>By: The American Conservative &#187; Since I&#8217;ve been away&#8230;</title>
		<link>http://www.frontporchrepublic.com/2009/04/tea-party/#comment-27109</link>
		<dc:creator>The American Conservative &#187; Since I&#8217;ve been away&#8230;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Feb 2010 00:50:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Patrick Deenen has good piece on the large meaning of last week&#8217;s Tea Party&#8217;s one won&#8217;t see anywhere else [...]</description>
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		<title>By: What&#8217;s Not the Matter With Kansas &#124; Front Porch Republic</title>
		<link>http://www.frontporchrepublic.com/2009/04/tea-party/#comment-22107</link>
		<dc:creator>What&#8217;s Not the Matter With Kansas &#124; Front Porch Republic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 12:03:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] of all stripe, is cause for righteous and fervent anger. Inchoate and ill-directed, the Glenn Beck, &#8220;tea-party&#8221; movement reveals a justified anger toward both K Street and Wall Street. What good sense and manly [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] of all stripe, is cause for righteous and fervent anger. Inchoate and ill-directed, the Glenn Beck, &#8220;tea-party&#8221; movement reveals a justified anger toward both K Street and Wall Street. What good sense and manly [...]</p>
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		<title>By: jeff v</title>
		<link>http://www.frontporchrepublic.com/2009/04/tea-party/#comment-4328</link>
		<dc:creator>jeff v</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jun 2009 02:02:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My only critique of the Tea Parties is that they came a year too late.  If they had taken place at a time when the economic crisis was fomenting they may have made a difference.  Instead they came out looking like a knee-jerk reaction from those disappointed in the election results.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My only critique of the Tea Parties is that they came a year too late.  If they had taken place at a time when the economic crisis was fomenting they may have made a difference.  Instead they came out looking like a knee-jerk reaction from those disappointed in the election results.</p>
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		<title>By: &#8220;Places not worth caring about&#8221; &#171; Silent Speaking</title>
		<link>http://www.frontporchrepublic.com/2009/04/tea-party/#comment-3568</link>
		<dc:creator>&#8220;Places not worth caring about&#8221; &#171; Silent Speaking</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 May 2009 22:50:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] of all of this are very significant, and the consequences seem quite evident. Patrick Deneen, writing about the recent &#8220;tea parties,&#8221; argued that at their root was a basic, unarticulated frustration, because currently,  we [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Boz</title>
		<link>http://www.frontporchrepublic.com/2009/04/tea-party/#comment-1682</link>
		<dc:creator>Boz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Apr 2009 13:48:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Patrick,
As a student of political theory you should be a little more careful on the Mandeville-Smith connection.  Smith doesn&#039;t explicitly answer Mandeville by name (except in a footnote or two) but in his remarks on capital formation in Book 2 of WN he goes after the notion that vice and profligacy can be the basis of national prosperity, essentially arguing that wealth accumulation and investment requires self-restraint (i.e., saving).  Obviously, self-restraint isn&#039;t coextensive with the whole of Christian virtue (and Smith is aware of this as well; try following his revisions to TMS over the years), but the ways in which virtue and character are reshaped by commercial capitalism are pretty complex.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Patrick,<br />
As a student of political theory you should be a little more careful on the Mandeville-Smith connection.  Smith doesn&#8217;t explicitly answer Mandeville by name (except in a footnote or two) but in his remarks on capital formation in Book 2 of WN he goes after the notion that vice and profligacy can be the basis of national prosperity, essentially arguing that wealth accumulation and investment requires self-restraint (i.e., saving).  Obviously, self-restraint isn&#8217;t coextensive with the whole of Christian virtue (and Smith is aware of this as well; try following his revisions to TMS over the years), but the ways in which virtue and character are reshaped by commercial capitalism are pretty complex.</p>
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		<title>By: nemski</title>
		<link>http://www.frontporchrepublic.com/2009/04/tea-party/#comment-1546</link>
		<dc:creator>nemski</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Apr 2009 23:37:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your article conveniently left out the fact that the majority of protesters were mainly white. If what you say is true, would not the African-American feel an even more justified lack of control towards the government and hence, play a bigger part in the tea parties.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your article conveniently left out the fact that the majority of protesters were mainly white. If what you say is true, would not the African-American feel an even more justified lack of control towards the government and hence, play a bigger part in the tea parties.</p>
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		<title>By: Some articles for your consideration &#124; Conservative Heritage Times</title>
		<link>http://www.frontporchrepublic.com/2009/04/tea-party/#comment-1532</link>
		<dc:creator>Some articles for your consideration &#124; Conservative Heritage Times</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Apr 2009 19:36:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Deenen gives a good summnation of the deeper meaning of the Tea Parties which you won&#8217;t find in conventional political or [...]</description>
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		<title>By: D.W. Sabin</title>
		<link>http://www.frontporchrepublic.com/2009/04/tea-party/#comment-1503</link>
		<dc:creator>D.W. Sabin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Apr 2009 01:03:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not to mention the Great Parade of the External Cost Priesthood that thinks as long as the burning bag of sheist is on somebody elses porch then all is well at the helm.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not to mention the Great Parade of the External Cost Priesthood that thinks as long as the burning bag of sheist is on somebody elses porch then all is well at the helm.</p>
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		<title>By: D.W. Sabin</title>
		<link>http://www.frontporchrepublic.com/2009/04/tea-party/#comment-1502</link>
		<dc:creator>D.W. Sabin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Apr 2009 01:00:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Typical Whitey,
I am in complete agreement regarding the sheer gall of rising budgets and deficits. What is needed at these here Tea Parties is a simple list that goes way beyond taxation to address the Manifest Degradations and Cockeyed Tomfoolery of The Gunpoint Ebola represented by Inefficient Bureaucracy and the Military Clusterboink. Democracy at Gunpoint is the kind of Bait and Switch only dreamed up by criminal elements.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Typical Whitey,<br />
I am in complete agreement regarding the sheer gall of rising budgets and deficits. What is needed at these here Tea Parties is a simple list that goes way beyond taxation to address the Manifest Degradations and Cockeyed Tomfoolery of The Gunpoint Ebola represented by Inefficient Bureaucracy and the Military Clusterboink. Democracy at Gunpoint is the kind of Bait and Switch only dreamed up by criminal elements.</p>
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		<title>By: Patrick Deneen</title>
		<link>http://www.frontporchrepublic.com/2009/04/tea-party/#comment-1490</link>
		<dc:creator>Patrick Deneen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Apr 2009 16:27:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mr. Cheeks,
I hate to draw attention to this discomfiting fact, but American Presidents since FDR have been &quot;unctuous supplicants of the House of Saud.&quot;  This ongoing supplication is further evidence of our loss of sovereignty, our slavish dependence upon foreign powers that requires ever greater centralization of power to ensure the steady and undisrupted flow of &quot;foreign&quot; oil (a.k.a. &quot;oil&quot;) to our shores.  I believe, above all, the protests were an inchoate demand for the real capacity and opportunity for self-government.  What is more difficult to discern are the structural obstacles - political, economic and otherwise - that make such self-government all but impossible, and the actual complicity of even the participants of these protests in the conditions of their own loss of self-rule.  Anger is no substitute for self-understanding, which is more difficult to televise - and it doesn&#039;t matter whether it&#039;s FOX or MSNBC we&#039;re talking about here.  Image cannot replace understanding, and we sorely lack the capacity and resources - above all opportunities for and engagement in actual speech - for sustained inquiry into our own condition.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr. Cheeks,<br />
I hate to draw attention to this discomfiting fact, but American Presidents since FDR have been &#8220;unctuous supplicants of the House of Saud.&#8221;  This ongoing supplication is further evidence of our loss of sovereignty, our slavish dependence upon foreign powers that requires ever greater centralization of power to ensure the steady and undisrupted flow of &#8220;foreign&#8221; oil (a.k.a. &#8220;oil&#8221;) to our shores.  I believe, above all, the protests were an inchoate demand for the real capacity and opportunity for self-government.  What is more difficult to discern are the structural obstacles &#8211; political, economic and otherwise &#8211; that make such self-government all but impossible, and the actual complicity of even the participants of these protests in the conditions of their own loss of self-rule.  Anger is no substitute for self-understanding, which is more difficult to televise &#8211; and it doesn&#8217;t matter whether it&#8217;s FOX or MSNBC we&#8217;re talking about here.  Image cannot replace understanding, and we sorely lack the capacity and resources &#8211; above all opportunities for and engagement in actual speech &#8211; for sustained inquiry into our own condition.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob Cheeks</title>
		<link>http://www.frontporchrepublic.com/2009/04/tea-party/#comment-1482</link>
		<dc:creator>Bob Cheeks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Apr 2009 11:43:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If, after four months in office, the unctuous supplicant of the House of Saud draws a million members of the bourgeoisie in protest, we can only imagine the remonstrations in a year or so as the economy continues on life support, or God-forbid, worse, or when our Islamic enemies, once again, deliver another blooding.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If, after four months in office, the unctuous supplicant of the House of Saud draws a million members of the bourgeoisie in protest, we can only imagine the remonstrations in a year or so as the economy continues on life support, or God-forbid, worse, or when our Islamic enemies, once again, deliver another blooding.</p>
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		<title>By: Typical Whitey</title>
		<link>http://www.frontporchrepublic.com/2009/04/tea-party/#comment-1473</link>
		<dc:creator>Typical Whitey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Apr 2009 23:59:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s the budget and the deficits that motivated me and others I know to attend our Tea Party. BO and Congress are enslaving future generations to onerous conditions to be established by the Chinese and other bond holders.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s the budget and the deficits that motivated me and others I know to attend our Tea Party. BO and Congress are enslaving future generations to onerous conditions to be established by the Chinese and other bond holders.</p>
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		<title>By: Josh Cooney</title>
		<link>http://www.frontporchrepublic.com/2009/04/tea-party/#comment-1470</link>
		<dc:creator>Josh Cooney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Apr 2009 22:45:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hate taxes.  That&#039;s why I don&#039;t pay them.</description>
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		<title>By: Casey Khan</title>
		<link>http://www.frontporchrepublic.com/2009/04/tea-party/#comment-1460</link>
		<dc:creator>Casey Khan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Apr 2009 14:23:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;namely, a protest against &#039;taxation without representation&#039; - in a deeper sense, there is a profound continuity between these two protests, even if the circumstances and the particular governments in question are radically different.&quot;
  
Actually, though most people can&#039;t put their finger on it, seigniorage and inflation has been a substantial tax done at the behest of the central banking authority.  If we take inflation as it is classically understood, as the excessive creation of money and debt, to the advantage of debtors at the expense of creditors (not merely an increase in a statistically tortured CPI).  We can see that this is taxation without representation.  Our current monetary policy is dominated by the legal positivism of legal tender laws, and fiat paper money.  Money, in our system, has been ontologically reduced from elemental forms (copper, silver, gold) to mere paper, backed by debt at the command of the state.  
  
Inflation and debased money has not only economic effects, but substantial moral effects as well.  For this argument I commend the thoughts of the Catholic economist Jorg Guido Hulsmann of the University of Angers:

&quot;The spiritual dimension of these inflation-induced habits seems to be obvious. Money and financial questions come to play an exaggerated role in the life of man. Inflation makes society materialistic. More and more people strive for money income at the expense of personal happiness. Inflation-induced geographical mobility artificially weakens family bonds and patriotic loyalty. Many of those who tend to be greedy, envious, and niggardly anyway fall prey to sin. Even those who are not so inclined by their natures will be exposed to temptations they would not otherwise have felt. And because the vagaries of the financial markets also provide a ready excuse for an excessively parsimonious use of one’s money, donations for charitable institutions will decline.&quot;  -Hulsmann, The Ethics of Money Production
  
The commoners can&#039;t quite put their finger on it, but this is the outrage of taxation without representation that is destroying their lives.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;namely, a protest against &#8216;taxation without representation&#8217; &#8211; in a deeper sense, there is a profound continuity between these two protests, even if the circumstances and the particular governments in question are radically different.&#8221;</p>
<p>Actually, though most people can&#8217;t put their finger on it, seigniorage and inflation has been a substantial tax done at the behest of the central banking authority.  If we take inflation as it is classically understood, as the excessive creation of money and debt, to the advantage of debtors at the expense of creditors (not merely an increase in a statistically tortured CPI).  We can see that this is taxation without representation.  Our current monetary policy is dominated by the legal positivism of legal tender laws, and fiat paper money.  Money, in our system, has been ontologically reduced from elemental forms (copper, silver, gold) to mere paper, backed by debt at the command of the state.  </p>
<p>Inflation and debased money has not only economic effects, but substantial moral effects as well.  For this argument I commend the thoughts of the Catholic economist Jorg Guido Hulsmann of the University of Angers:</p>
<p>&#8220;The spiritual dimension of these inflation-induced habits seems to be obvious. Money and financial questions come to play an exaggerated role in the life of man. Inflation makes society materialistic. More and more people strive for money income at the expense of personal happiness. Inflation-induced geographical mobility artificially weakens family bonds and patriotic loyalty. Many of those who tend to be greedy, envious, and niggardly anyway fall prey to sin. Even those who are not so inclined by their natures will be exposed to temptations they would not otherwise have felt. And because the vagaries of the financial markets also provide a ready excuse for an excessively parsimonious use of one’s money, donations for charitable institutions will decline.&#8221;  -Hulsmann, The Ethics of Money Production</p>
<p>The commoners can&#8217;t quite put their finger on it, but this is the outrage of taxation without representation that is destroying their lives.</p>
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		<title>By: Curt Lovelace</title>
		<link>http://www.frontporchrepublic.com/2009/04/tea-party/#comment-1448</link>
		<dc:creator>Curt Lovelace</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Apr 2009 22:09:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I attended one of the TEA Parties.  Let me first state that I am not against taxes. When they are used to meet the constitutionally-intended purposes for taxation, I am willing to put up my share. I am not willing to pay for unconstitutional activities. Nor am I willing to pay your share.

Many in the &quot;movement&quot; of tax protesters have stated that their complaint is not against taxation without representation as was the first Tea Party in Boston Harbor. That may be the case with those individuals. It is not my situation. I am unrepresented in Congress. Millions of others who wish to protect the Constitution of this country are also feeling disenfranchised.

I am certainly not represented by those who claim to represent me. This is the way of democracy, one might say. But the fact is that the&quot;reps&quot; do what they believe is right (or politically expedient) without regard to the beliefs and desires of those they allegedly represent.

In Congress I have one Representative, a liberal Democrat. I also have two allegedly-Republican Senators. All three voted in favor of the &quot;Stimulus Bill.&quot; I sent emails to all three asking that they please vote against this bill. Two responded. Each defended her (yes, all three are female) reasons for voting this monstrosity of a liability onto the backs of my grandchildren. Here is the closing paragraph from the response I got from my friendly Representative.

    &lt;blockquote cite=&quot;&quot;&gt;I am confident that this package is a necessary first step towards jump-starting our struggling economy and putting people back to work in Maine and around the country - in jobs that will rebuild our infrastructure and expand information technology to rural areas, modernize our archaic health care system, strengthen our children&#039;s education and move America towards a sustainable energy future that breaks our dependence on foreign oil. I appreciate your thoughts on the recovery package, and I hope that this letter helps explain my decision to support it.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

 Please note that this is merely a first step. Both legislators and governors around the nation have promised to tax anything and everything. Combine this power of taxation with the general hatred of Christianity evident among the &quot;elite&quot; classes and we can expect churches to be taxed to the limit - and beyond in the near future.

We&#039;ll get socialized medicine, soon. I probably won&#039;t be able to afford the gas to get to any appointment my government deigns to assign me, though.

In 1776, the year of the birth of this nation, Adam Smith published his great tome, The Wealth of Nations. He had a lot to say about taxes. He listed four basic rules for taxation:

    1. &quot;The subject of every State ought to contribute towards the support of the government, as nearly as possible, in proportion to their respective abilities; that is, in proportion to the revenue which they respectively enjoy under the protection of the State.&quot; (Perhaps Mr. Timothy Franz Geithner should be reminded of this maxim).

    2. &quot;The tax each individual is bound to pay ought to be certain, and not arbitrary. The time of payment, the manner of payment, and the quantity to be paid, ought all to be clear and plain to the contributor, and to ever other person.&quot; (How many pages are there in the IRS code?).

    3. &quot;Every tax ought to be levied at the time, or in the manner in which it is most likely to be convenient for the contributor to pay it.&quot; (Convenient for me? Not likely).

    4. &quot;Every tax ought to be so contrived as both to take out and to keep out of the pockets of the people as little as possible, over and above what it brings into the public treasury of the State.&quot; (They don&#039;t take much out of the pockets of many of our government officials).

 As I stated, I&#039;m not against legitimate taxes. I&#039;m against foolish, wasteful, non-productive, and confiscatory taxation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I attended one of the TEA Parties.  Let me first state that I am not against taxes. When they are used to meet the constitutionally-intended purposes for taxation, I am willing to put up my share. I am not willing to pay for unconstitutional activities. Nor am I willing to pay your share.</p>
<p>Many in the &#8220;movement&#8221; of tax protesters have stated that their complaint is not against taxation without representation as was the first Tea Party in Boston Harbor. That may be the case with those individuals. It is not my situation. I am unrepresented in Congress. Millions of others who wish to protect the Constitution of this country are also feeling disenfranchised.</p>
<p>I am certainly not represented by those who claim to represent me. This is the way of democracy, one might say. But the fact is that the&#8221;reps&#8221; do what they believe is right (or politically expedient) without regard to the beliefs and desires of those they allegedly represent.</p>
<p>In Congress I have one Representative, a liberal Democrat. I also have two allegedly-Republican Senators. All three voted in favor of the &#8220;Stimulus Bill.&#8221; I sent emails to all three asking that they please vote against this bill. Two responded. Each defended her (yes, all three are female) reasons for voting this monstrosity of a liability onto the backs of my grandchildren. Here is the closing paragraph from the response I got from my friendly Representative.</p>
<blockquote cite=""><p>I am confident that this package is a necessary first step towards jump-starting our struggling economy and putting people back to work in Maine and around the country &#8211; in jobs that will rebuild our infrastructure and expand information technology to rural areas, modernize our archaic health care system, strengthen our children&#8217;s education and move America towards a sustainable energy future that breaks our dependence on foreign oil. I appreciate your thoughts on the recovery package, and I hope that this letter helps explain my decision to support it.</p></blockquote>
<p> Please note that this is merely a first step. Both legislators and governors around the nation have promised to tax anything and everything. Combine this power of taxation with the general hatred of Christianity evident among the &#8220;elite&#8221; classes and we can expect churches to be taxed to the limit &#8211; and beyond in the near future.</p>
<p>We&#8217;ll get socialized medicine, soon. I probably won&#8217;t be able to afford the gas to get to any appointment my government deigns to assign me, though.</p>
<p>In 1776, the year of the birth of this nation, Adam Smith published his great tome, The Wealth of Nations. He had a lot to say about taxes. He listed four basic rules for taxation:</p>
<p>    1. &#8220;The subject of every State ought to contribute towards the support of the government, as nearly as possible, in proportion to their respective abilities; that is, in proportion to the revenue which they respectively enjoy under the protection of the State.&#8221; (Perhaps Mr. Timothy Franz Geithner should be reminded of this maxim).</p>
<p>    2. &#8220;The tax each individual is bound to pay ought to be certain, and not arbitrary. The time of payment, the manner of payment, and the quantity to be paid, ought all to be clear and plain to the contributor, and to ever other person.&#8221; (How many pages are there in the IRS code?).</p>
<p>    3. &#8220;Every tax ought to be levied at the time, or in the manner in which it is most likely to be convenient for the contributor to pay it.&#8221; (Convenient for me? Not likely).</p>
<p>    4. &#8220;Every tax ought to be so contrived as both to take out and to keep out of the pockets of the people as little as possible, over and above what it brings into the public treasury of the State.&#8221; (They don&#8217;t take much out of the pockets of many of our government officials).</p>
<p> As I stated, I&#8217;m not against legitimate taxes. I&#8217;m against foolish, wasteful, non-productive, and confiscatory taxation.</p>
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		<title>By: D.W. Sabin</title>
		<link>http://www.frontporchrepublic.com/2009/04/tea-party/#comment-1447</link>
		<dc:creator>D.W. Sabin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Apr 2009 20:52:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The condescension of the liberal sectors of the press concerning the impulses of the tea party participants was as dissatisfying  as the rather inchoate quality of the tea party events themselves. Listening to a middle class &quot;rebel&quot; complain about &quot;tax increases&quot; when they were about to receive a tax cut made it all a little bizarre.They are putting the cart before the horse.  Listening to a liberal commentator sniff with dripping sarcasm at the tea party events....while the government which they support is consolidating an ever more intrusive and debt-spending militaristic edifice is beyond bizarre. What they should be decrying instead of &quot;taxes&quot; are the fundamental dysfunctions behind the taxes. Until this government decides that our Military expenditures , Entitlement program inefficiencies and debt accumulation are unsustainable, any discussion of taxes is academic. There is a wholesale slobbering adulation of large institutions on both sides of the political aisle and this is a rather quixotic state of affairs because both sides of the political aisle have, at one time or another fought against elements of the large institutions that currently plague us. That we have been given a world class demonstration of the hazards of large institutional thinking ...and as a result....find ourselves within sympathetic territory for both liberal and conservative commonality .....and still, the old team sport sophism of the last 16+ years holds strong...well, this is what we should be protesting.

Both sides of the political spectrum are simply echo-chambers for a political establishment that is no longer a Representative Government for their States. We are an empire now and while some of this empire-urge may be of good intention, much of the result of our imperial projection is roundhouse clocking us in a variety of ways, unsustainable debt and international alienation being the most significant.

Brokaw&#039;s salute to &quot;efficiency&quot; is entirely predictable. He is part of the Media Establishment that is fed by the status quo. After all, our great campaign of globalist efficiency is speeding us to a more efficient suicide and disasters always garner high Nelson ratings. However, to be fair his sentiment and support of the Establishment are neither malevolent nor unethical, they simply reflect his august station within that Establishment. What he fails to perceive is that the Establishment that has been created by the American imperium is cheering an efficient gutting of everything the Greatest Generation stood for: The principles of Liberty and Self government left us by the Framers , thus producing a population of self-starting citizens that actually regard their fellow citizen with sympathy and support. The Branding of Media and Imperial Politics is creating political antipathy where none rightly exist. It is simply a Bait and Switch....a distraction that is virtually insuring that a damaging political collision will come sooner or later.

During the reign of Charles I , political and religious conflict were intertwined and resulted in an excess of unwanted graduate priests who were termed &quot;Alienated Intellectuals&quot;. One can see a growing number of both alienated intellectuals and disgruntled hoi polloi today and while they may or may not be graduate priests, the cumulative effect of widespread disquiet is destructive. Needless to say, Charles&#039; tone-deafness in the face of events precipitated the English Civil War and his own death. While we watch as Investment houses that shorted and profited from the debt instruments that got us into trouble then have their losses covered by the inflationary government fiscal policy of massive bail-out...one wonders how much longer the populace will continue to swallow it. It would be nice if some of our leadership stood up and went to work for the welfare of the people and their lapsed-republic. Unfortunately, it would appear that the Establishment is hellbent on the &quot;Let Them Eat Asphalt&quot; indifference that may reprise past civil strife and a little quote from the Luddite rebellions mentioned in Peter Laslett&#039;s book &quot;The World We Have Lost, England Before the Industrial Age&quot; is in order. He cites a particularly colorful quote he found in Edward Thompson&#039;s 1963 book  &quot;The Making of the English working class&quot;

To Wit:
&quot;We Hear InFormed that you got shear in mee sheens (shearing machines) and if you Dont Pull them Down in a Forght Nights Time Wee will pull them Down for you Wee will you Damd infernold dog&quot;. 

By all accounts, the &quot;damed infernold dogs&quot; seem to beg the lash and ironically, they are more properly termed the Luddites in the way of a more prudent way forward.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The condescension of the liberal sectors of the press concerning the impulses of the tea party participants was as dissatisfying  as the rather inchoate quality of the tea party events themselves. Listening to a middle class &#8220;rebel&#8221; complain about &#8220;tax increases&#8221; when they were about to receive a tax cut made it all a little bizarre.They are putting the cart before the horse.  Listening to a liberal commentator sniff with dripping sarcasm at the tea party events&#8230;.while the government which they support is consolidating an ever more intrusive and debt-spending militaristic edifice is beyond bizarre. What they should be decrying instead of &#8220;taxes&#8221; are the fundamental dysfunctions behind the taxes. Until this government decides that our Military expenditures , Entitlement program inefficiencies and debt accumulation are unsustainable, any discussion of taxes is academic. There is a wholesale slobbering adulation of large institutions on both sides of the political aisle and this is a rather quixotic state of affairs because both sides of the political aisle have, at one time or another fought against elements of the large institutions that currently plague us. That we have been given a world class demonstration of the hazards of large institutional thinking &#8230;and as a result&#8230;.find ourselves within sympathetic territory for both liberal and conservative commonality &#8230;..and still, the old team sport sophism of the last 16+ years holds strong&#8230;well, this is what we should be protesting.</p>
<p>Both sides of the political spectrum are simply echo-chambers for a political establishment that is no longer a Representative Government for their States. We are an empire now and while some of this empire-urge may be of good intention, much of the result of our imperial projection is roundhouse clocking us in a variety of ways, unsustainable debt and international alienation being the most significant.</p>
<p>Brokaw&#8217;s salute to &#8220;efficiency&#8221; is entirely predictable. He is part of the Media Establishment that is fed by the status quo. After all, our great campaign of globalist efficiency is speeding us to a more efficient suicide and disasters always garner high Nelson ratings. However, to be fair his sentiment and support of the Establishment are neither malevolent nor unethical, they simply reflect his august station within that Establishment. What he fails to perceive is that the Establishment that has been created by the American imperium is cheering an efficient gutting of everything the Greatest Generation stood for: The principles of Liberty and Self government left us by the Framers , thus producing a population of self-starting citizens that actually regard their fellow citizen with sympathy and support. The Branding of Media and Imperial Politics is creating political antipathy where none rightly exist. It is simply a Bait and Switch&#8230;.a distraction that is virtually insuring that a damaging political collision will come sooner or later.</p>
<p>During the reign of Charles I , political and religious conflict were intertwined and resulted in an excess of unwanted graduate priests who were termed &#8220;Alienated Intellectuals&#8221;. One can see a growing number of both alienated intellectuals and disgruntled hoi polloi today and while they may or may not be graduate priests, the cumulative effect of widespread disquiet is destructive. Needless to say, Charles&#8217; tone-deafness in the face of events precipitated the English Civil War and his own death. While we watch as Investment houses that shorted and profited from the debt instruments that got us into trouble then have their losses covered by the inflationary government fiscal policy of massive bail-out&#8230;one wonders how much longer the populace will continue to swallow it. It would be nice if some of our leadership stood up and went to work for the welfare of the people and their lapsed-republic. Unfortunately, it would appear that the Establishment is hellbent on the &#8220;Let Them Eat Asphalt&#8221; indifference that may reprise past civil strife and a little quote from the Luddite rebellions mentioned in Peter Laslett&#8217;s book &#8220;The World We Have Lost, England Before the Industrial Age&#8221; is in order. He cites a particularly colorful quote he found in Edward Thompson&#8217;s 1963 book  &#8220;The Making of the English working class&#8221;</p>
<p>To Wit:<br />
&#8220;We Hear InFormed that you got shear in mee sheens (shearing machines) and if you Dont Pull them Down in a Forght Nights Time Wee will pull them Down for you Wee will you Damd infernold dog&#8221;. </p>
<p>By all accounts, the &#8220;damed infernold dogs&#8221; seem to beg the lash and ironically, they are more properly termed the Luddites in the way of a more prudent way forward.</p>
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