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		<title>By: Brave New World Reconsidered: A Tale of Two Gnosticisms &#124; Front Porch Republic</title>
		<link>http://www.frontporchrepublic.com/2009/05/our-gnostic-assault-on-ourselves/#comment-4150</link>
		<dc:creator>Brave New World Reconsidered: A Tale of Two Gnosticisms &#124; Front Porch Republic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Jun 2009 14:47:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] they serve as symbolic means to elevate the spirit beyond the world. As Jason Peters has eloquently observed, this one-sided elevation into the transcendent, neglecting the unity of finite and infinite that [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Jack</title>
		<link>http://www.frontporchrepublic.com/2009/05/our-gnostic-assault-on-ourselves/#comment-3638</link>
		<dc:creator>Jack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 May 2009 11:54:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Are you aware of the work of Norman O. Brown, especially the chapter in his book &quot;Life against Death&quot; entitled &quot;Filthy Lucre&quot;? This work is a somewhat over the top  neo-Freudian analysis, but has many insights that would help round out your valid argument about the relationship between gnosticism (which to some degree is foundational to the protestant/modernist cultural perspective) and the accumulation of &quot;scheiss&quot;. Another interesting work in that vein is Ernst Becker&#039;s &quot; The Denial of Death&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Are you aware of the work of Norman O. Brown, especially the chapter in his book &#8220;Life against Death&#8221; entitled &#8220;Filthy Lucre&#8221;? This work is a somewhat over the top  neo-Freudian analysis, but has many insights that would help round out your valid argument about the relationship between gnosticism (which to some degree is foundational to the protestant/modernist cultural perspective) and the accumulation of &#8220;scheiss&#8221;. Another interesting work in that vein is Ernst Becker&#8217;s &#8221; The Denial of Death&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: A New Site; Gnosticism &#171; The Gourd Reborn</title>
		<link>http://www.frontporchrepublic.com/2009/05/our-gnostic-assault-on-ourselves/#comment-3034</link>
		<dc:creator>A New Site; Gnosticism &#171; The Gourd Reborn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 May 2009 16:40:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Steve Nicoloso</title>
		<link>http://www.frontporchrepublic.com/2009/05/our-gnostic-assault-on-ourselves/#comment-2976</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve Nicoloso</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 May 2009 15:49:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;We really are surrounded by violence and death in this country but are removed from it as well. The removal seems to allow us to make it abstract and therefore meaningless.&lt;/em&gt;

... and simultaneously make them all the more brutal, i.e., all the more removed from a human level.

On a related note, we recently viewed the HBO movie: &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1019454/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&quot;Taking Chance&quot;&lt;/a&gt;.  It is (a true story) about the care of &quot;the remains&quot; of a marine killed in action in Iraq.  Just that.  Simple, but made all the more profound because of it.  One of the more anti-gnostic movies I&#039;ve ever seen.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>We really are surrounded by violence and death in this country but are removed from it as well. The removal seems to allow us to make it abstract and therefore meaningless.</em></p>
<p>&#8230; and simultaneously make them all the more brutal, i.e., all the more removed from a human level.</p>
<p>On a related note, we recently viewed the HBO movie: <a href="http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1019454/" rel="nofollow">&#8220;Taking Chance&#8221;</a>.  It is (a true story) about the care of &#8220;the remains&#8221; of a marine killed in action in Iraq.  Just that.  Simple, but made all the more profound because of it.  One of the more anti-gnostic movies I&#8217;ve ever seen.</p>
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		<title>By: D.W. Sabin</title>
		<link>http://www.frontporchrepublic.com/2009/05/our-gnostic-assault-on-ourselves/#comment-2794</link>
		<dc:creator>D.W. Sabin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 May 2009 00:52:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Armchairpunter, 
Having attended and shoveled at several Jewish funerals, one of the fine things of a Jewish funeral is that the act of covering the coffin is assumed by the family and other so motivated attendees. As a big dumb goyim at the first one attended, I recoiled in distaste but after doing it the first time, it quickly became a solemn honor and obligation to bury one&#039;s own dead. There is an awful finality to hearing the earth fall on the top of the coffin....your bones ache but it makes one reflect on both life and death, family, past and future.

We really are surrounded by violence and death in this country but are removed from it as well. The removal seems to allow us to make it abstract and therefore meaningless.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Armchairpunter,<br />
Having attended and shoveled at several Jewish funerals, one of the fine things of a Jewish funeral is that the act of covering the coffin is assumed by the family and other so motivated attendees. As a big dumb goyim at the first one attended, I recoiled in distaste but after doing it the first time, it quickly became a solemn honor and obligation to bury one&#8217;s own dead. There is an awful finality to hearing the earth fall on the top of the coffin&#8230;.your bones ache but it makes one reflect on both life and death, family, past and future.</p>
<p>We really are surrounded by violence and death in this country but are removed from it as well. The removal seems to allow us to make it abstract and therefore meaningless.</p>
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		<title>By: armchairpunter</title>
		<link>http://www.frontporchrepublic.com/2009/05/our-gnostic-assault-on-ourselves/#comment-2700</link>
		<dc:creator>armchairpunter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2009 01:50:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was reminded of another aspect of our gnosticism by this piece in Reason on the virtually non-existent practice of home burial:  http://www.reason.com/blog/show/133480.html.  We have gone from a society in which the majority of people witnessed the deterioration and death of a loved one within the walls of the family home to a society that banishes the elderly to senior living facilities and, in the name of combating death and pain w/ little regard to the patient&#039;s age or condition, marks the passage of those on death&#039;s door with a medical spending spree within the confines of a hospital.  Death, too, is now a process delegated to the pros,</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was reminded of another aspect of our gnosticism by this piece in Reason on the virtually non-existent practice of home burial:  <a href="http://www.reason.com/blog/show/133480.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.reason.com/blog/show/133480.html</a>.  We have gone from a society in which the majority of people witnessed the deterioration and death of a loved one within the walls of the family home to a society that banishes the elderly to senior living facilities and, in the name of combating death and pain w/ little regard to the patient&#8217;s age or condition, marks the passage of those on death&#8217;s door with a medical spending spree within the confines of a hospital.  Death, too, is now a process delegated to the pros,</p>
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		<title>By: armchairpunter</title>
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		<dc:creator>armchairpunter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 May 2009 23:11:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry, peddled not pedaled.</description>
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		<title>By: armchairpunter</title>
		<link>http://www.frontporchrepublic.com/2009/05/our-gnostic-assault-on-ourselves/#comment-2683</link>
		<dc:creator>armchairpunter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 May 2009 23:10:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This phenomenon is greater in breadth and depth than suggested here.  We may not reach for ideals at a truly platonic level, but we have delegated many of the endeavors that profoundly engage all of our human faculties to professionals we deem closer to perfection than the vast majority of humans can hope to be.  

We have delegated our sexuality to professionals on both sides of the pornographer&#039;s lens.  We have determined that our sexuality is a diversion to be pursued as and with whom our whim elects.  We eschew the hard work of relating physically in real relationships of commitment and authentic intimacy.

Related to, but not coextensive with, our treatment of sexuality is the predominant strain of romantic love pedaled in our culture.  In film and song, we find exalted a love seemingly not made for this earth.  The love relationships ostensibly pursued by those who populate our movie and recording studios appear to be a round trip rocket blasts undertaken with little regard for those left behind or those on whom one&#039;s rocket might crash upon re-entry. The ineffable emotion to which we have sloppily pinned to term love seems, in many regards, the occasion or portal for attempting to escape the physical realm.  

We have delegated music and art and drama and storytelling (including in the context of worship) to another set of professionals, preferring to observe and to listen rather than participate.  

We have delegated much of our striving for physical achievement to professional athletes.

These tendencies should not come as a surprise in the wider world.  Within the church, among those called to be salt and light, it reflects quite poorly on our grasp of the reality of that scandal we know as the incarnation.    That a member of the Godhead took on flesh, died, rose again for us, and eternally, in the flesh, intercedes for and reigns over His people doesn&#039;t seem to impress us overly much.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This phenomenon is greater in breadth and depth than suggested here.  We may not reach for ideals at a truly platonic level, but we have delegated many of the endeavors that profoundly engage all of our human faculties to professionals we deem closer to perfection than the vast majority of humans can hope to be.  </p>
<p>We have delegated our sexuality to professionals on both sides of the pornographer&#8217;s lens.  We have determined that our sexuality is a diversion to be pursued as and with whom our whim elects.  We eschew the hard work of relating physically in real relationships of commitment and authentic intimacy.</p>
<p>Related to, but not coextensive with, our treatment of sexuality is the predominant strain of romantic love pedaled in our culture.  In film and song, we find exalted a love seemingly not made for this earth.  The love relationships ostensibly pursued by those who populate our movie and recording studios appear to be a round trip rocket blasts undertaken with little regard for those left behind or those on whom one&#8217;s rocket might crash upon re-entry. The ineffable emotion to which we have sloppily pinned to term love seems, in many regards, the occasion or portal for attempting to escape the physical realm.  </p>
<p>We have delegated music and art and drama and storytelling (including in the context of worship) to another set of professionals, preferring to observe and to listen rather than participate.  </p>
<p>We have delegated much of our striving for physical achievement to professional athletes.</p>
<p>These tendencies should not come as a surprise in the wider world.  Within the church, among those called to be salt and light, it reflects quite poorly on our grasp of the reality of that scandal we know as the incarnation.    That a member of the Godhead took on flesh, died, rose again for us, and eternally, in the flesh, intercedes for and reigns over His people doesn&#8217;t seem to impress us overly much.</p>
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		<title>By: polistra</title>
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		<dc:creator>polistra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 May 2009 21:47:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The pure-mind advocates, the Platonists, are about to run into
a couple of big roadblocks, both discovered fairly recently
by pure science.  

1.  It appears that our brains have a built-in facility for 
religion, a section designed for talking to the gods.  It&#039;s
obvious that our &quot;ordinary&quot; speech facility is useful for
survival, and helps us to learn from other humans.  By
analogy, the &quot;spiritual&quot; speech facility must be good for
survival, and must help us to learn from a different
source.  If this source doesn&#039;t exist, why do we have
a mechanism to deal with it?

2.  Our brains definitely have specific facilities for
arithmetic and proportions, which may even include separate
neurons for each number and fraction up to some limit.
The Platonists can no longer maintain that mathematics
was a &quot;god-like&quot; set of concepts, out there waiting for
us to discover it by random accident.  Instead, we were designed 
to do math, designed to handle measurements and numerals,
designed to build things in a systematic way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The pure-mind advocates, the Platonists, are about to run into<br />
a couple of big roadblocks, both discovered fairly recently<br />
by pure science.  </p>
<p>1.  It appears that our brains have a built-in facility for<br />
religion, a section designed for talking to the gods.  It&#8217;s<br />
obvious that our &#8220;ordinary&#8221; speech facility is useful for<br />
survival, and helps us to learn from other humans.  By<br />
analogy, the &#8220;spiritual&#8221; speech facility must be good for<br />
survival, and must help us to learn from a different<br />
source.  If this source doesn&#8217;t exist, why do we have<br />
a mechanism to deal with it?</p>
<p>2.  Our brains definitely have specific facilities for<br />
arithmetic and proportions, which may even include separate<br />
neurons for each number and fraction up to some limit.<br />
The Platonists can no longer maintain that mathematics<br />
was a &#8220;god-like&#8221; set of concepts, out there waiting for<br />
us to discover it by random accident.  Instead, we were designed<br />
to do math, designed to handle measurements and numerals,<br />
designed to build things in a systematic way.</p>
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		<title>By: Esmeralda_Pearl</title>
		<link>http://www.frontporchrepublic.com/2009/05/our-gnostic-assault-on-ourselves/#comment-2677</link>
		<dc:creator>Esmeralda_Pearl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 May 2009 20:57:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dr. Peters,

Thank you for your second installment. :) 

&lt;i&gt;&quot;Too often we think of the &#039;spiritual&#039; in us as pertaining only to what we amorphously regard as psychological, as if the incarnate condition were not our state of plenitude and fullness.&quot;&lt;/i&gt;--J. Peters.

Often we ignore that &quot;the flesh&quot; is more than just our physical beings...it includes our human emotions and thoughts. The eternal &quot;infinite&quot; dimension of ourselves is wrapped within the perishable &quot;finite&quot; body required to live and thrive on this planet. 


&lt;b&gt;Well said, JD Salyer!  I agree!&lt;/b&gt;  
&quot;Humans don&#039;t beget &quot;tissue.&quot;  They reproduce human beings!&quot;~~&lt;i&gt;EP&lt;/i&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dr. Peters,</p>
<p>Thank you for your second installment. :) </p>
<p><i>&#8220;Too often we think of the &#8216;spiritual&#8217; in us as pertaining only to what we amorphously regard as psychological, as if the incarnate condition were not our state of plenitude and fullness.&#8221;</i>&#8211;J. Peters.</p>
<p>Often we ignore that &#8220;the flesh&#8221; is more than just our physical beings&#8230;it includes our human emotions and thoughts. The eternal &#8220;infinite&#8221; dimension of ourselves is wrapped within the perishable &#8220;finite&#8221; body required to live and thrive on this planet. </p>
<p><b>Well said, JD Salyer!  I agree!</b><br />
&#8220;Humans don&#8217;t beget &#8220;tissue.&#8221;  They reproduce human beings!&#8221;~~<i>EP</i></p>
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		<title>By: JD Salyer</title>
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		<dc:creator>JD Salyer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 May 2009 18:43:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Now most people live longer and less brutal lives.&quot; 

Unless, of course, your brain gets sucked out by a vacuum extractor prior to your birth.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Now most people live longer and less brutal lives.&#8221; </p>
<p>Unless, of course, your brain gets sucked out by a vacuum extractor prior to your birth.</p>
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		<title>By: D.W. Sabin</title>
		<link>http://www.frontporchrepublic.com/2009/05/our-gnostic-assault-on-ourselves/#comment-2663</link>
		<dc:creator>D.W. Sabin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 May 2009 17:50:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jake, 
Relegating labor to an unfortunate obligation to be eliminated or reduced if possible would seem to run counter to the physiology of the species. An organism with the cognitive abilities we have, the legs to enable them and the hands to realize it all...that then decides there is something better in life than productive labor would seem to create conditions where the only thing left would be onanism.

If this be the case, no wonder we&#039;re such narcissists. Telos as Supine Pornography. 

Yikes, I think you may have inadvertently hit upon the leitmotif.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jake,<br />
Relegating labor to an unfortunate obligation to be eliminated or reduced if possible would seem to run counter to the physiology of the species. An organism with the cognitive abilities we have, the legs to enable them and the hands to realize it all&#8230;that then decides there is something better in life than productive labor would seem to create conditions where the only thing left would be onanism.</p>
<p>If this be the case, no wonder we&#8217;re such narcissists. Telos as Supine Pornography. </p>
<p>Yikes, I think you may have inadvertently hit upon the leitmotif.</p>
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		<title>By: D.W. Sabin</title>
		<link>http://www.frontporchrepublic.com/2009/05/our-gnostic-assault-on-ourselves/#comment-2662</link>
		<dc:creator>D.W. Sabin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 May 2009 17:38:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A hundred years ago, when the Industrial Crusade of this country was already well underway, certain thinkers and writers emerged who saw the consequences and elucidated them with prescience and no small measure of the public embraced the ideas...including many of the titans of industry themselves. Oddly enough, a kind of atomization ensued that obliterated the messages and then this kind of notion that man was somehow apart from nature deeply ingrained itself in the populace and the tom-foolery persisted, aided by the prevailing short attention span of a busy-work nation. Symbols and conventional wisdom replaced reality and then the advertisers kicked in.............

Anther of the trusty Mt. Aire vintage tourist trap plaques explains it nicely. I think it&#039;s an old Pennsylvania Dutch truism: &quot;The hurrier I go, the behinder I get&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A hundred years ago, when the Industrial Crusade of this country was already well underway, certain thinkers and writers emerged who saw the consequences and elucidated them with prescience and no small measure of the public embraced the ideas&#8230;including many of the titans of industry themselves. Oddly enough, a kind of atomization ensued that obliterated the messages and then this kind of notion that man was somehow apart from nature deeply ingrained itself in the populace and the tom-foolery persisted, aided by the prevailing short attention span of a busy-work nation. Symbols and conventional wisdom replaced reality and then the advertisers kicked in&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;.</p>
<p>Anther of the trusty Mt. Aire vintage tourist trap plaques explains it nicely. I think it&#8217;s an old Pennsylvania Dutch truism: &#8220;The hurrier I go, the behinder I get&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Jake - but not hte one</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jake - but not hte one</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 May 2009 17:30:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jason, I didn&#039;t take your advice and quit reading, as I don&#039;t agree with your assumptions. Taking your assumptions at face value, I have a few observations.

We are physical beings. Comfort and security are important to us. Work, and particularly physical labor, is not only not comfortable, but often dangerous to our long term well being. Our bodies do require work, and if you are honest, you know that for most of us some physical labor is required. Even now, in this most materialistic of times (at least in the sense of how much of a population can forgo most physical labor) few of us choose to escape labor altogether.

Destruction of our world. Feeding people is important, and feeding everybody is hard to do. The green revolution of the 60&#039;s and 70&#039;s fed more people than anyone could have imagined. Yet the very techniques that allow us to feed the masses, and the laboring masses at that, cause harm to the physical world. What do we do? Not feed them? Restrict populations? Or work to provide in ways that don&#039;t harm the world and the people in it?

Spiritual consequences.  There you&#039;ve got me. I know what consequences are, and I think I understand what spiritual means, but the spiritual consequences of advanced gnosticism, that I don&#039;t get.

Before our technological revolution, most people lived relatively short and often brutal lives.  Now most people live longer and less brutal lives. This is a direct consequence of gnosticism, at least as I understand your use of the term. What would you have different?

Jake</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jason, I didn&#8217;t take your advice and quit reading, as I don&#8217;t agree with your assumptions. Taking your assumptions at face value, I have a few observations.</p>
<p>We are physical beings. Comfort and security are important to us. Work, and particularly physical labor, is not only not comfortable, but often dangerous to our long term well being. Our bodies do require work, and if you are honest, you know that for most of us some physical labor is required. Even now, in this most materialistic of times (at least in the sense of how much of a population can forgo most physical labor) few of us choose to escape labor altogether.</p>
<p>Destruction of our world. Feeding people is important, and feeding everybody is hard to do. The green revolution of the 60&#8242;s and 70&#8242;s fed more people than anyone could have imagined. Yet the very techniques that allow us to feed the masses, and the laboring masses at that, cause harm to the physical world. What do we do? Not feed them? Restrict populations? Or work to provide in ways that don&#8217;t harm the world and the people in it?</p>
<p>Spiritual consequences.  There you&#8217;ve got me. I know what consequences are, and I think I understand what spiritual means, but the spiritual consequences of advanced gnosticism, that I don&#8217;t get.</p>
<p>Before our technological revolution, most people lived relatively short and often brutal lives.  Now most people live longer and less brutal lives. This is a direct consequence of gnosticism, at least as I understand your use of the term. What would you have different?</p>
<p>Jake</p>
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		<title>By: Zac</title>
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		<dc:creator>Zac</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 May 2009 14:48:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Old Order Mennonites, baby.  Mennonites.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Old Order Mennonites, baby.  Mennonites.</p>
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		<title>By: Thomas G.</title>
		<link>http://www.frontporchrepublic.com/2009/05/our-gnostic-assault-on-ourselves/#comment-2638</link>
		<dc:creator>Thomas G.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 May 2009 14:29:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dr. Peters,

Thank you for a very thoughtful piece on our current culture. I think you have done a very good job of linking the current aversion to material creation (Nature), with our obsession with technology. However, the question you ask is a simple one. The spiritual consequence of gnosticism, is turning away from God&#039;s love by rejecting creation and ultimately failing in our vocation as stewards. I believe that Dante had a special place in Hell reserved for such believers. 

What I find more difficult is the fact that man is gifted with talent beyond mere husbandry. The internet too is a &quot;work of human hands&quot;. It is not technology, anymore than material creation, that is evil. It is what we choose to do with it. Action, and intent are what defines good from evil. Using technology to remove ourselves from creation as you have argued is indeed sinful. But are there not also valid uses for machines, and technology that open us to God&#039;s grace and do His work on earth?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dr. Peters,</p>
<p>Thank you for a very thoughtful piece on our current culture. I think you have done a very good job of linking the current aversion to material creation (Nature), with our obsession with technology. However, the question you ask is a simple one. The spiritual consequence of gnosticism, is turning away from God&#8217;s love by rejecting creation and ultimately failing in our vocation as stewards. I believe that Dante had a special place in Hell reserved for such believers. </p>
<p>What I find more difficult is the fact that man is gifted with talent beyond mere husbandry. The internet too is a &#8220;work of human hands&#8221;. It is not technology, anymore than material creation, that is evil. It is what we choose to do with it. Action, and intent are what defines good from evil. Using technology to remove ourselves from creation as you have argued is indeed sinful. But are there not also valid uses for machines, and technology that open us to God&#8217;s grace and do His work on earth?</p>
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