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		<title>By: Bruce Smith</title>
		<link>http://www.frontporchrepublic.com/2009/08/benedict-on-business-whats-love-got-to-do-with-it/#comment-9581</link>
		<dc:creator>Bruce Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Aug 2009 18:01:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cheeky-Butts. Enough.</description>
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		<title>By: Bob Cheeks</title>
		<link>http://www.frontporchrepublic.com/2009/08/benedict-on-business-whats-love-got-to-do-with-it/#comment-9579</link>
		<dc:creator>Bob Cheeks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Aug 2009 17:44:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Smitty,

Dude, it was your suggestion, I am merely and unsnarkily interested in what you have to say. So it&#039;s up to you, you already know my position on private property.</description>
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<p>Dude, it was your suggestion, I am merely and unsnarkily interested in what you have to say. So it&#8217;s up to you, you already know my position on private property.</p>
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		<title>By: Bruce Smith</title>
		<link>http://www.frontporchrepublic.com/2009/08/benedict-on-business-whats-love-got-to-do-with-it/#comment-9576</link>
		<dc:creator>Bruce Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Aug 2009 16:45:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Bob. We all want to see your ability to figure this property thing out! Don&#039;t be lazy. Why should I do all the work? Anyway as you&#039;d agree self-taught is best.

Viz your healthcare post. The nineteenth century private charity thing on healthcare didn&#039;t work too well for my ancestors nor for most other folk&#039;s ancestors which is why governments got involved in the provision. I wouldn&#039;t dream of asking you to directly fund the healthcare insurance of somebody who can&#039;t afford it. I would though like you, me and others, to give up small contributions to those who can&#039;t afford it and with a method that minimizes free-loaders. Tell me how the Church prevents free-loaders and you&#039;ll understand why the &quot;gummint&quot; got involved!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Bob. We all want to see your ability to figure this property thing out! Don&#8217;t be lazy. Why should I do all the work? Anyway as you&#8217;d agree self-taught is best.</p>
<p>Viz your healthcare post. The nineteenth century private charity thing on healthcare didn&#8217;t work too well for my ancestors nor for most other folk&#8217;s ancestors which is why governments got involved in the provision. I wouldn&#8217;t dream of asking you to directly fund the healthcare insurance of somebody who can&#8217;t afford it. I would though like you, me and others, to give up small contributions to those who can&#8217;t afford it and with a method that minimizes free-loaders. Tell me how the Church prevents free-loaders and you&#8217;ll understand why the &#8220;gummint&#8221; got involved!</p>
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		<title>By: Bob Cheeks</title>
		<link>http://www.frontporchrepublic.com/2009/08/benedict-on-business-whats-love-got-to-do-with-it/#comment-9563</link>
		<dc:creator>Bob Cheeks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Aug 2009 15:09:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>D.W. Fearless defender of freedom, though lately seduced by the siren call of Collectivized Catholic Distributism, I have no doubt you are a closet right wing, property-rights, American patriot! Never doubted it.
RE: the Ohio DOT, they threaten but usually don&#039;t seize, unless some politician wants the land. We have a county official noted for that. Someday I&#039;ll tell you the story of when the beloved first wife defended her dear friend in a Columbiana County Court after she&#039;d been sued by an agri-business chicken grower over a right of way. Mrs. Cheeks won!
RE: guns we have four or five each and plenty of ammo but we are certified sissies when it comes to my heroic neighbor who owns an armory in his basement sufficient to hold off a platoon of Mujahadeen.
Re: The Ohio DOT, they sent a long-haired, college prof to assure us they only wanted to &#039;walk&#039; around lookin&#039; for Indian stuff and maybe hug a few trees. After determining he didn&#039;t have a bong on him he was promptly escorted to his state vehicle.
Re: Democrats are everywhere!
D.W., I love you dude, I don&#039;t care if you are a little left of center, you&#039;re still aces, and I&#039;d join you at the barricades any day!

Smitty: Dude, now come on, don&#039;t be shy. I can tell you are really, really smart and I look forward to learning stuff. And, besides the subject is intriguing and my guess is D.W. would love to read it too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>D.W. Fearless defender of freedom, though lately seduced by the siren call of Collectivized Catholic Distributism, I have no doubt you are a closet right wing, property-rights, American patriot! Never doubted it.<br />
RE: the Ohio DOT, they threaten but usually don&#8217;t seize, unless some politician wants the land. We have a county official noted for that. Someday I&#8217;ll tell you the story of when the beloved first wife defended her dear friend in a Columbiana County Court after she&#8217;d been sued by an agri-business chicken grower over a right of way. Mrs. Cheeks won!<br />
RE: guns we have four or five each and plenty of ammo but we are certified sissies when it comes to my heroic neighbor who owns an armory in his basement sufficient to hold off a platoon of Mujahadeen.<br />
Re: The Ohio DOT, they sent a long-haired, college prof to assure us they only wanted to &#8216;walk&#8217; around lookin&#8217; for Indian stuff and maybe hug a few trees. After determining he didn&#8217;t have a bong on him he was promptly escorted to his state vehicle.<br />
Re: Democrats are everywhere!<br />
D.W., I love you dude, I don&#8217;t care if you are a little left of center, you&#8217;re still aces, and I&#8217;d join you at the barricades any day!</p>
<p>Smitty: Dude, now come on, don&#8217;t be shy. I can tell you are really, really smart and I look forward to learning stuff. And, besides the subject is intriguing and my guess is D.W. would love to read it too.</p>
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		<title>By: D.W. Sabin</title>
		<link>http://www.frontporchrepublic.com/2009/08/benedict-on-business-whats-love-got-to-do-with-it/#comment-9557</link>
		<dc:creator>D.W. Sabin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Aug 2009 14:35:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cheeks,
They let Democrats into your church? What kind of an operation is this? I thought most Democrats were taking Yoga class or pilotis on Sunday morning...at least those ambulatory at the hour.

Just for your records, I aint giving up my property rights any time soon, not even to someone who asks politely. 

I can only wish that the contretemps with the State DOT could have escalated to them ignoring your permit fee request and coming anyway , only to be served a Cease and Desist Order by you, duct taped to the end of your 12 gauge.....while you were wearing a Happy Face Tshirt.

What is highly entertaining is the fact that the DOT actually had someone maintaining they were doing a Historical research tour.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cheeks,<br />
They let Democrats into your church? What kind of an operation is this? I thought most Democrats were taking Yoga class or pilotis on Sunday morning&#8230;at least those ambulatory at the hour.</p>
<p>Just for your records, I aint giving up my property rights any time soon, not even to someone who asks politely. </p>
<p>I can only wish that the contretemps with the State DOT could have escalated to them ignoring your permit fee request and coming anyway , only to be served a Cease and Desist Order by you, duct taped to the end of your 12 gauge&#8230;..while you were wearing a Happy Face Tshirt.</p>
<p>What is highly entertaining is the fact that the DOT actually had someone maintaining they were doing a Historical research tour.</p>
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		<title>By: Bruce Smith</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bruce Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Aug 2009 14:24:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bob. I&#039;m wanting you to rip it first.</description>
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		<title>By: Bob Cheeks</title>
		<link>http://www.frontporchrepublic.com/2009/08/benedict-on-business-whats-love-got-to-do-with-it/#comment-9553</link>
		<dc:creator>Bob Cheeks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Aug 2009 13:41:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Even further improvement is possible if more thought is given to the concept that to maintain individual freedom and the common good you need social control and that with population beyond a certain figure that means using a democratically controlled state.&quot;

I would be very interested in seeing you expand the above sentence, either in a FPR Blog if possible or in a &#039;comment.&#039;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Even further improvement is possible if more thought is given to the concept that to maintain individual freedom and the common good you need social control and that with population beyond a certain figure that means using a democratically controlled state.&#8221;</p>
<p>I would be very interested in seeing you expand the above sentence, either in a FPR Blog if possible or in a &#8216;comment.&#8217;</p>
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		<title>By: Bruce Smith</title>
		<link>http://www.frontporchrepublic.com/2009/08/benedict-on-business-whats-love-got-to-do-with-it/#comment-9550</link>
		<dc:creator>Bruce Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Aug 2009 13:11:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Front Porcher dialogue might improve if the idea of &quot;property for use&quot; and &quot;property for power&quot; was given more consideration. Even further improvement is possible if more thought is given to the concept that to maintain individual freedom and the common good you need social control and that with population beyond a certain figure that means using a democratically controlled state.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Front Porcher dialogue might improve if the idea of &#8220;property for use&#8221; and &#8220;property for power&#8221; was given more consideration. Even further improvement is possible if more thought is given to the concept that to maintain individual freedom and the common good you need social control and that with population beyond a certain figure that means using a democratically controlled state.</p>
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		<title>By: Bruce Smith</title>
		<link>http://www.frontporchrepublic.com/2009/08/benedict-on-business-whats-love-got-to-do-with-it/#comment-9501</link>
		<dc:creator>Bruce Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Aug 2009 18:36:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Abused by the market, abused by the state, why not sit tight and wait for your fate!</description>
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		<title>By: Bob Cheeks</title>
		<link>http://www.frontporchrepublic.com/2009/08/benedict-on-business-whats-love-got-to-do-with-it/#comment-9495</link>
		<dc:creator>Bob Cheeks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Aug 2009 17:15:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>D.W.
Well, I&#039;ll keep an eye on your &#039;comments&#039; to see how that &quot;collectivization&quot; Catholic Distributist thing works out for you. But I ain&#039;t running with people who have what appears to be so little regard for property rights. Hey, I go to church with &quot;Democrats,&quot; that&#039;s how broad minded I am, but I sure as hell ain&#039;t singin&#039; &quot;kumbyaya my Lord!&quot;.

Re:&quot;property rights:&quot;
Ten or fifteen years ago the State of Ohio, Dept. of Transportation, called the wife and says, &quot;We&#039;re coming on your property to do a historical survey in preparation for a highway which may be going across or near your land.&quot;
So the wife&#039;s not happy and says &quot;what do you think?&quot; and I says, &quot;Only if they buy a permit.&quot; (We&#039;d been involved in the permitting of a hazardous waste facility). So the next day they call back and the wife tells them they gotta buy a permit, for $1,000. (I figured that was a fair price, considering license plate fees, property taxes, hunting tags, fishing tags, ect.) The bureaucrat at the Dept. of Trans. gets her pants in a knot and starts ranting and raving (she didn&#039;t see the humor of my fee proposal!) and threatens the wife with a lawsuit, whereupon the wife says, &quot;See you in court.&quot;
Well, the sheriff called a few weeks later whining about me not getting along with the state boys but that was it, the matter was over. ALL of my neighbors had quietly and meekly given in to the will of the State.

So, I figure I won&#039;t cede my property rights to some church or guild or committee or gummint and if I must, well then the game&#039;s over anyway and we&#039;re living in Amerika and it&#039;s lock and load time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>D.W.<br />
Well, I&#8217;ll keep an eye on your &#8216;comments&#8217; to see how that &#8220;collectivization&#8221; Catholic Distributist thing works out for you. But I ain&#8217;t running with people who have what appears to be so little regard for property rights. Hey, I go to church with &#8220;Democrats,&#8221; that&#8217;s how broad minded I am, but I sure as hell ain&#8217;t singin&#8217; &#8220;kumbyaya my Lord!&#8221;.</p>
<p>Re:&#8221;property rights:&#8221;<br />
Ten or fifteen years ago the State of Ohio, Dept. of Transportation, called the wife and says, &#8220;We&#8217;re coming on your property to do a historical survey in preparation for a highway which may be going across or near your land.&#8221;<br />
So the wife&#8217;s not happy and says &#8220;what do you think?&#8221; and I says, &#8220;Only if they buy a permit.&#8221; (We&#8217;d been involved in the permitting of a hazardous waste facility). So the next day they call back and the wife tells them they gotta buy a permit, for $1,000. (I figured that was a fair price, considering license plate fees, property taxes, hunting tags, fishing tags, ect.) The bureaucrat at the Dept. of Trans. gets her pants in a knot and starts ranting and raving (she didn&#8217;t see the humor of my fee proposal!) and threatens the wife with a lawsuit, whereupon the wife says, &#8220;See you in court.&#8221;<br />
Well, the sheriff called a few weeks later whining about me not getting along with the state boys but that was it, the matter was over. ALL of my neighbors had quietly and meekly given in to the will of the State.</p>
<p>So, I figure I won&#8217;t cede my property rights to some church or guild or committee or gummint and if I must, well then the game&#8217;s over anyway and we&#8217;re living in Amerika and it&#8217;s lock and load time.</p>
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		<title>By: D.W. Sabin</title>
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		<dc:creator>D.W. Sabin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Aug 2009 15:44:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Steve K..
I seem to recall finding it in the City Lights Bookstore in San Francisco way back in the olden days where it was some kind of a totem snickering at the militaristic rubes but I thought it a fine commentary on Ginsbergs brand of high-strung paranoia and libertinism as identity.

You have a perfect thing to contribute to this sordid venue...a full essay on your day with Ginsburg at the VMI

Cheeks, you live far too close to the Federal District not to be worried. Volcanos are but pikers in comparison to that Krakatoa of Graft and Best Intentions Gone Armed and Dangerous. For the record,  I &quot;tolerate&quot; these distributist reveries because I find them interesting when compared against the flatheaded excesses of the last 30 years. I grant myself a little license to explore it because I think they have a snowball&#039;s chance of hell in actually getting one of these systems up and running like they did @ Mondragon. Here in this lapsed-republic, the citizen heartily embraces &quot;collectivization&quot; in thought, transgression and consumerism ....following the turbid stream right into penury but if anybody mentions the word in an economic sense, they wet their panties and jump for mommas lap and start sucking their thumbs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steve K..<br />
I seem to recall finding it in the City Lights Bookstore in San Francisco way back in the olden days where it was some kind of a totem snickering at the militaristic rubes but I thought it a fine commentary on Ginsbergs brand of high-strung paranoia and libertinism as identity.</p>
<p>You have a perfect thing to contribute to this sordid venue&#8230;a full essay on your day with Ginsburg at the VMI</p>
<p>Cheeks, you live far too close to the Federal District not to be worried. Volcanos are but pikers in comparison to that Krakatoa of Graft and Best Intentions Gone Armed and Dangerous. For the record,  I &#8220;tolerate&#8221; these distributist reveries because I find them interesting when compared against the flatheaded excesses of the last 30 years. I grant myself a little license to explore it because I think they have a snowball&#8217;s chance of hell in actually getting one of these systems up and running like they did @ Mondragon. Here in this lapsed-republic, the citizen heartily embraces &#8220;collectivization&#8221; in thought, transgression and consumerism &#8230;.following the turbid stream right into penury but if anybody mentions the word in an economic sense, they wet their panties and jump for mommas lap and start sucking their thumbs.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve K.</title>
		<link>http://www.frontporchrepublic.com/2009/08/benedict-on-business-whats-love-got-to-do-with-it/#comment-9464</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve K.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Aug 2009 02:06:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I promise someday I&#039;ll have something useful to contribute to the Front Porch, but until that time:

&quot;As to the VMI…..one of my treasured possessions is a little black and white photograph of cadets, in dress uniform, scratching their heads in disbelief as they read Ginzburgs “Howl” in class. Cripes is it rich.&quot;

Good grief, DW, where on Earth did you get that?

Because I remember exactly when that happened. You see, one of my roommates belonged to that rare and dubious breed, the VMI English major. There were not many of them, at least at that time, so anytime some man of letters or another was invited to school to speaker or do whatever that sort does, all of them are involved in it in some way or another. So when we were seniors, somehow Ginsburg got invited to come to the I, and he had to give him a tour of the school. I had never heard of him at the time, but we all got an education, the general reaction was &quot;WTF?!!&quot; Followed by many, many jokes about the soundness of English majors. I think the whole thing was worth it, because he put on some public poetry reading one evening, and the Commandant and his wife went, dressed to the nines, clearly ignorant about who Allen Ginsburg was, and he read Howl. The strained discomfort multiplied by basic Southern hospitality not to make a scene, was priceless.

According to my roommate Pete, on the tour Ginsburg was rather intimidated by the place and what went on there, which surprised me, I thought it&#039;d turn him on or something.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I promise someday I&#8217;ll have something useful to contribute to the Front Porch, but until that time:</p>
<p>&#8220;As to the VMI…..one of my treasured possessions is a little black and white photograph of cadets, in dress uniform, scratching their heads in disbelief as they read Ginzburgs “Howl” in class. Cripes is it rich.&#8221;</p>
<p>Good grief, DW, where on Earth did you get that?</p>
<p>Because I remember exactly when that happened. You see, one of my roommates belonged to that rare and dubious breed, the VMI English major. There were not many of them, at least at that time, so anytime some man of letters or another was invited to school to speaker or do whatever that sort does, all of them are involved in it in some way or another. So when we were seniors, somehow Ginsburg got invited to come to the I, and he had to give him a tour of the school. I had never heard of him at the time, but we all got an education, the general reaction was &#8220;WTF?!!&#8221; Followed by many, many jokes about the soundness of English majors. I think the whole thing was worth it, because he put on some public poetry reading one evening, and the Commandant and his wife went, dressed to the nines, clearly ignorant about who Allen Ginsburg was, and he read Howl. The strained discomfort multiplied by basic Southern hospitality not to make a scene, was priceless.</p>
<p>According to my roommate Pete, on the tour Ginsburg was rather intimidated by the place and what went on there, which surprised me, I thought it&#8217;d turn him on or something.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob Cheeks</title>
		<link>http://www.frontporchrepublic.com/2009/08/benedict-on-business-whats-love-got-to-do-with-it/#comment-9458</link>
		<dc:creator>Bob Cheeks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Aug 2009 01:31:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t have to worry. I live in the valley of the west fork of the Little Beaver, we don&#039;t have no volcanoes.</description>
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		<title>By: Bruce Smith</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bruce Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Aug 2009 23:45:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Property rights have always been contingent upon the environment we have found ourselves living in. When there were no suitable plants and animals to domesticate for farming human beings retained the nomadic lifestyle. When there were suitable plants and animals to develop farming the necessary concept of property rights was developed. This became a norm because we are dialogical creatures (endlessly having dialogues with each other that often result in norms and then laws.) However, South Pacific islanders, for example, believed for many years in taboos and there were various punishments for breaking taboos up to the confiscation of all of an individual&#039;s property including, land, hut, tools, crops and animals (See &quot;The Golden Bough&quot; Fraser). Secondly, imagine you live in a house on a remote volcanic island in the South Pacific. You live there with your wife and the house has four bedrooms. The volcano is active and erupts one day making many people homeless on the other side of the island. The island&#039;s government urgently needs to find homes for people and declares an emergency law for the foreseeable future to accommodate homeless people in houses with spare bedrooms. Your property rights have been partially abrogated. Property rights I, therefore, argue are ultimately based upon the norms, or will, of the community you live in. It is very useful to have them but they are entirely contingent.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Property rights have always been contingent upon the environment we have found ourselves living in. When there were no suitable plants and animals to domesticate for farming human beings retained the nomadic lifestyle. When there were suitable plants and animals to develop farming the necessary concept of property rights was developed. This became a norm because we are dialogical creatures (endlessly having dialogues with each other that often result in norms and then laws.) However, South Pacific islanders, for example, believed for many years in taboos and there were various punishments for breaking taboos up to the confiscation of all of an individual&#8217;s property including, land, hut, tools, crops and animals (See &#8220;The Golden Bough&#8221; Fraser). Secondly, imagine you live in a house on a remote volcanic island in the South Pacific. You live there with your wife and the house has four bedrooms. The volcano is active and erupts one day making many people homeless on the other side of the island. The island&#8217;s government urgently needs to find homes for people and declares an emergency law for the foreseeable future to accommodate homeless people in houses with spare bedrooms. Your property rights have been partially abrogated. Property rights I, therefore, argue are ultimately based upon the norms, or will, of the community you live in. It is very useful to have them but they are entirely contingent.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob Cheeks</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bob Cheeks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Aug 2009 22:17:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>D.W., I am quite comfortable living at least politically in the eighteenth century...it all went down hill after that anyway.
Re: Catholic Distributism and Mr. Daly&#039;s comments:
“All other rights, whatever they are, including property rights and the right of free trade must be subordinate to this norm; they must not hinder it, but must rather expedite its application. It must be considered a serious and urgent social obligation to refer these rights to their original purpose.”
...well to put it politely, that dog ain&#039;t huntin&#039; and I&#039;m surprised you tolerate it. In fact that&#039;s worth a damn good revolution, yes sireee, bob!
I don&#039;t have any problems with ESOP&#039;s, never did.

Re: this: &quot;Lastly, in the issue of “owning your piece of the planet unencumbered by the unjust impositions of the State”…this status covers a large ground extending from an exclusive ownership that is predatory and extractive, leaving a mugging in its wake and then there is the proper and right honorable end of the spectrum…the property owner acting as steward in a respectful effort at stewardship of his or her own in concert with their fellow. This is a serious issue and at current, the trend favors the more dysfunctional muggers and corporatist exploiters concerned primarily with rapine in the service of short term profit.&quot;
There are laws that define land usage. If we can&#039;t enforce those laws, then perhaps we can&#039;t enforce any laws and we already exist in a state of anarchy. The right to private ownership of property is the ground of liberty. It was in the eighteenth century and it is today and damn well worth fighting for...don&#039;t ya think?

As a good, fallen away Catholic I have a fondness for the Pope other than when he speaks of grand world councils.

&quot;Needless to say, in our case, 200 years of a democratic republic seems to be evolving a new class of receding brains at the helm and all of it without the great art and music frequently produced during earlier times...&quot; 
No, palsy, I don&#039;t agree at all. The problem is not republicanism rather the rise of sundry distortions: socialism, progressivism, alienation, and the loss of meaning of the founding symbols: liberty, freedom, federalism, justice. 

The problem is we didn&#039;t follow Jefferson&#039;s dictum and shed a little blood every twenty years or so. If we&#039;d hung a couple of dozen congressmen/senators, bankers, and regulators over this latest wet dream and left their bodies to rot on lamp posts our bettors might have gotten the message. 

So, for me, it&#039;s no go with Catholic Distributism (socialist succotash!) but no hard feelings, palsy. We can argue over this, not that I like to argue!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>D.W., I am quite comfortable living at least politically in the eighteenth century&#8230;it all went down hill after that anyway.<br />
Re: Catholic Distributism and Mr. Daly&#8217;s comments:<br />
“All other rights, whatever they are, including property rights and the right of free trade must be subordinate to this norm; they must not hinder it, but must rather expedite its application. It must be considered a serious and urgent social obligation to refer these rights to their original purpose.”<br />
&#8230;well to put it politely, that dog ain&#8217;t huntin&#8217; and I&#8217;m surprised you tolerate it. In fact that&#8217;s worth a damn good revolution, yes sireee, bob!<br />
I don&#8217;t have any problems with ESOP&#8217;s, never did.</p>
<p>Re: this: &#8220;Lastly, in the issue of “owning your piece of the planet unencumbered by the unjust impositions of the State”…this status covers a large ground extending from an exclusive ownership that is predatory and extractive, leaving a mugging in its wake and then there is the proper and right honorable end of the spectrum…the property owner acting as steward in a respectful effort at stewardship of his or her own in concert with their fellow. This is a serious issue and at current, the trend favors the more dysfunctional muggers and corporatist exploiters concerned primarily with rapine in the service of short term profit.&#8221;<br />
There are laws that define land usage. If we can&#8217;t enforce those laws, then perhaps we can&#8217;t enforce any laws and we already exist in a state of anarchy. The right to private ownership of property is the ground of liberty. It was in the eighteenth century and it is today and damn well worth fighting for&#8230;don&#8217;t ya think?</p>
<p>As a good, fallen away Catholic I have a fondness for the Pope other than when he speaks of grand world councils.</p>
<p>&#8220;Needless to say, in our case, 200 years of a democratic republic seems to be evolving a new class of receding brains at the helm and all of it without the great art and music frequently produced during earlier times&#8230;&#8221;<br />
No, palsy, I don&#8217;t agree at all. The problem is not republicanism rather the rise of sundry distortions: socialism, progressivism, alienation, and the loss of meaning of the founding symbols: liberty, freedom, federalism, justice. </p>
<p>The problem is we didn&#8217;t follow Jefferson&#8217;s dictum and shed a little blood every twenty years or so. If we&#8217;d hung a couple of dozen congressmen/senators, bankers, and regulators over this latest wet dream and left their bodies to rot on lamp posts our bettors might have gotten the message. </p>
<p>So, for me, it&#8217;s no go with Catholic Distributism (socialist succotash!) but no hard feelings, palsy. We can argue over this, not that I like to argue!</p>
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		<title>By: Bob Cheeks</title>
		<link>http://www.frontporchrepublic.com/2009/08/benedict-on-business-whats-love-got-to-do-with-it/#comment-9445</link>
		<dc:creator>Bob Cheeks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Aug 2009 21:46:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bruce, thanks for the link, the stuff looks interesting and I&#039;ll download. I&#039;ve always been of the opinion, perhaps misguided, that private property rights are worth fighting for.
As an aside, a fellow named Bruce Smith saved my life in 1956...pulled me out of an icy, flooded creek. I wrote the story of the American Enterprise a few years ago, then it was published in a book.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bruce, thanks for the link, the stuff looks interesting and I&#8217;ll download. I&#8217;ve always been of the opinion, perhaps misguided, that private property rights are worth fighting for.<br />
As an aside, a fellow named Bruce Smith saved my life in 1956&#8230;pulled me out of an icy, flooded creek. I wrote the story of the American Enterprise a few years ago, then it was published in a book.</p>
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