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		<title>By: Steve K.</title>
		<link>http://www.frontporchrepublic.com/2009/08/characteristics-of-the-modest-republic/#comment-9727</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve K.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Aug 2009 04:06:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Government will not stop overspending until the general prejudice in favor of spending for both the reelection of career politicians and for metastatic faith is replaced by something more in line with modesty.&quot;

I don&#039;t believe this will happen. The temptation posed by the vast sums of money the Federal government can now raise is irresistible. Like Sauron&#039;s ring, it&#039;s just too much concentrated power and everyone who comes into contact with it will eventually succumb. Being about as far from hobbits as you can get, modern Americans firmly believe you can do a lot of good with that much money... and snap, we&#039;re snared. 

The only way to break the addiction to money is to take it away, or rather take away the means of raising so much of it. Repealing the income tax could be a start. But what are the odds of that happening?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Government will not stop overspending until the general prejudice in favor of spending for both the reelection of career politicians and for metastatic faith is replaced by something more in line with modesty.&#8221;</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t believe this will happen. The temptation posed by the vast sums of money the Federal government can now raise is irresistible. Like Sauron&#8217;s ring, it&#8217;s just too much concentrated power and everyone who comes into contact with it will eventually succumb. Being about as far from hobbits as you can get, modern Americans firmly believe you can do a lot of good with that much money&#8230; and snap, we&#8217;re snared. </p>
<p>The only way to break the addiction to money is to take it away, or rather take away the means of raising so much of it. Repealing the income tax could be a start. But what are the odds of that happening?</p>
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		<title>By: Scott Dadson</title>
		<link>http://www.frontporchrepublic.com/2009/08/characteristics-of-the-modest-republic/#comment-9719</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott Dadson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Aug 2009 23:42:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The issue of the capital structures of government is one that is based on unlimited consumption (sales taxes, business liscenes, sin taxes, and the like) and a limit on wealth taxes like the property tax.  Not being an advocate of taxes but understanding the need to pay for the public good, I have yet to hear a conversation about the cost structure of government.  I am not talking about the paper headlines of local mayors using the city credit card to take out a potential business to lure them to town, but the real stuff about what services do we want local and state government to provide?  Why  is the federal government in the local and state government game?  What are the limited services that should be provided?  Let alone who (public or private) who should be providing it.  


It is time for a conversation about what we expect, need, want, from our government.  The cost structure is within our control economically.  It is not however, within our control with regards to the special interests that expect the government spending to benefit themselves.  Police, Fire, Engineers, Contractors, Health Insurance providers, teachers, landscapers, the list goes on.  This is not just the normal list of special interests groups.  They are friends, neighbors, fellow PTO members, church members.  

Local government is expected to serve up the services at low prices, ala Wal-Mart, without the correct economic incentives, competition, or understanding of profit.  

I read with amazement in the local papers, the blank spaces where this conversation could be happening, and see nothing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The issue of the capital structures of government is one that is based on unlimited consumption (sales taxes, business liscenes, sin taxes, and the like) and a limit on wealth taxes like the property tax.  Not being an advocate of taxes but understanding the need to pay for the public good, I have yet to hear a conversation about the cost structure of government.  I am not talking about the paper headlines of local mayors using the city credit card to take out a potential business to lure them to town, but the real stuff about what services do we want local and state government to provide?  Why  is the federal government in the local and state government game?  What are the limited services that should be provided?  Let alone who (public or private) who should be providing it.  </p>
<p>It is time for a conversation about what we expect, need, want, from our government.  The cost structure is within our control economically.  It is not however, within our control with regards to the special interests that expect the government spending to benefit themselves.  Police, Fire, Engineers, Contractors, Health Insurance providers, teachers, landscapers, the list goes on.  This is not just the normal list of special interests groups.  They are friends, neighbors, fellow PTO members, church members.  </p>
<p>Local government is expected to serve up the services at low prices, ala Wal-Mart, without the correct economic incentives, competition, or understanding of profit.  </p>
<p>I read with amazement in the local papers, the blank spaces where this conversation could be happening, and see nothing.</p>
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		<title>By: D.W. Sabin</title>
		<link>http://www.frontporchrepublic.com/2009/08/characteristics-of-the-modest-republic/#comment-9446</link>
		<dc:creator>D.W. Sabin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Aug 2009 22:01:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Modest&quot; seems to me the operative qualifier here...something altogether different than the self-glorifying bulimia of the current lapsed Republic...an edifice where the best laid plans are put into committee and in the fullness of time, everyone gets their cut of a final plan that competes earnestly with an accumulating pile of the worst ideas in history.

 I would feel better about our fate if the Congress and the Executive were to trade places with the occupants of the Great Ape House at the Bronx Zoo for a fortnight. The ape&#039;s most colorful gibbering would, by and large... exceed the combined intellect of our current standing government. By default or as planned it don&#039;t matter because the proof is in the spoiled pudding.

After all, Washington D.C. is now a Human Zoo, an amusement park if you will, where the bamboozled citizen is invited down to be stirred by the wonder of our Potemkin Monument while those working behind the scenes pick the body clean like a bunch of Piranha on a ganja-fueled munchy session.

Not on purpose mind you, it just happened this way after the people decided to sit back and watch as the Establishment took to rolling big giant spliffs of dollar bills and smoking them in a manner redolent of the locomotives of yore. They see green shoots now, growing sweetly emerald out of the thick carpet of bullshit that covers the place like the slopes of Mt St Helens after it blew.

Anyone not seriously cynical should pinch themselves and wake up to the walking nightmare.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Modest&#8221; seems to me the operative qualifier here&#8230;something altogether different than the self-glorifying bulimia of the current lapsed Republic&#8230;an edifice where the best laid plans are put into committee and in the fullness of time, everyone gets their cut of a final plan that competes earnestly with an accumulating pile of the worst ideas in history.</p>
<p> I would feel better about our fate if the Congress and the Executive were to trade places with the occupants of the Great Ape House at the Bronx Zoo for a fortnight. The ape&#8217;s most colorful gibbering would, by and large&#8230; exceed the combined intellect of our current standing government. By default or as planned it don&#8217;t matter because the proof is in the spoiled pudding.</p>
<p>After all, Washington D.C. is now a Human Zoo, an amusement park if you will, where the bamboozled citizen is invited down to be stirred by the wonder of our Potemkin Monument while those working behind the scenes pick the body clean like a bunch of Piranha on a ganja-fueled munchy session.</p>
<p>Not on purpose mind you, it just happened this way after the people decided to sit back and watch as the Establishment took to rolling big giant spliffs of dollar bills and smoking them in a manner redolent of the locomotives of yore. They see green shoots now, growing sweetly emerald out of the thick carpet of bullshit that covers the place like the slopes of Mt St Helens after it blew.</p>
<p>Anyone not seriously cynical should pinch themselves and wake up to the walking nightmare.</p>
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		<title>By: Grace Potts</title>
		<link>http://www.frontporchrepublic.com/2009/08/characteristics-of-the-modest-republic/#comment-9436</link>
		<dc:creator>Grace Potts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Aug 2009 19:38:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you, Mr. Williams

-GP</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you, Mr. Williams</p>
<p>-GP</p>
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		<title>By: Bob Williams</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bob Williams</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Aug 2009 18:41:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a former student of Dr. Federici, I think he is referring to the &quot;natural aristocracy&quot; concept of Aristotle which was also prevelant among the American Framers.  

This is to say that certain individuals naturally have greater talent than others, and are born with the characteristics of an ideal ruler.  The idea of mixed government also stems from this for various reasons. 

I would elaborate but I am on the way out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a former student of Dr. Federici, I think he is referring to the &#8220;natural aristocracy&#8221; concept of Aristotle which was also prevelant among the American Framers.  </p>
<p>This is to say that certain individuals naturally have greater talent than others, and are born with the characteristics of an ideal ruler.  The idea of mixed government also stems from this for various reasons. </p>
<p>I would elaborate but I am on the way out.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Federici</title>
		<link>http://www.frontporchrepublic.com/2009/08/characteristics-of-the-modest-republic/#comment-9364</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Federici</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Aug 2009 00:19:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, I did.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, I did.</p>
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		<title>By: Grace Potts</title>
		<link>http://www.frontporchrepublic.com/2009/08/characteristics-of-the-modest-republic/#comment-9363</link>
		<dc:creator>Grace Potts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Aug 2009 23:33:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dr. Federici-

I&#039;m curious, would you please explain what and to whom you are referring when you say &quot;leadership class&quot;?

Thanks in advance.

pax, caritas, et bonum-
GP</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dr. Federici-</p>
<p>I&#8217;m curious, would you please explain what and to whom you are referring when you say &#8220;leadership class&#8221;?</p>
<p>Thanks in advance.</p>
<p>pax, caritas, et bonum-<br />
GP</p>
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		<title>By: DS</title>
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		<dc:creator>DS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Aug 2009 02:55:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dr. Federici-

You are most definitely the best writer on here.  But am I mistaken, or did you not tell your students that you voted for Obama in the 2008 election?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dr. Federici-</p>
<p>You are most definitely the best writer on here.  But am I mistaken, or did you not tell your students that you voted for Obama in the 2008 election?</p>
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		<title>By: limitedgovernment</title>
		<link>http://www.frontporchrepublic.com/2009/08/characteristics-of-the-modest-republic/#comment-9200</link>
		<dc:creator>limitedgovernment</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Aug 2009 16:18:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>On a related note:
Localism &amp; Liberty - A Libertarian Proposal with Something for Everyone
http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/938695/localism_liberty.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On a related note:<br />
Localism &amp; Liberty &#8211; A Libertarian Proposal with Something for Everyone<br />
<a href="http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/938695/localism_liberty.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/938695/localism_liberty.html</a></p>
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