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		<title>By: John Ryan</title>
		<link>http://www.frontporchrepublic.com/2009/11/three-political-principles/#comment-22847</link>
		<dc:creator>John Ryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Nov 2009 01:26:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;The internal checks on actions—call them mores, habits, virtues—have suffered a continual buffeting by the forces of liberalism intent on crushing every constraint and obligation that is not the product of individual will.&quot;

I assent that liberalism taken to its furthest extreme (i.e. social anarchy) would certainly be dangerous to society as a whole. Allowing children the freedom to engage in sexual activities with adults would be ludicrous and destructive to our social fabric. However, liberalism is also the progressive force that propels society forward and evolves our moral understanding. The &quot;constraint and obligation&quot; to the community could easily be used to regress society and as a tool to control certain groups of people. For example, Rousseau argued that women were best suited for work in the home and thus it was their duty to remain there. It is the liberal mindset that fostered more equality of the sexes (I am making the a priori assumption that equality of the sexes is good). 

Additionally an Atheistic philosophy such as Secular Humanism provides structure for a society that seeks to find balance between the needs of the individual and the needs of the many. A main principle of Secular Humanism reads, &quot;A search for viable individual, social and political principles of ethical conduct, judging them on their ability to enhance human well-being and individual responsibility.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The internal checks on actions—call them mores, habits, virtues—have suffered a continual buffeting by the forces of liberalism intent on crushing every constraint and obligation that is not the product of individual will.&#8221;</p>
<p>I assent that liberalism taken to its furthest extreme (i.e. social anarchy) would certainly be dangerous to society as a whole. Allowing children the freedom to engage in sexual activities with adults would be ludicrous and destructive to our social fabric. However, liberalism is also the progressive force that propels society forward and evolves our moral understanding. The &#8220;constraint and obligation&#8221; to the community could easily be used to regress society and as a tool to control certain groups of people. For example, Rousseau argued that women were best suited for work in the home and thus it was their duty to remain there. It is the liberal mindset that fostered more equality of the sexes (I am making the a priori assumption that equality of the sexes is good). </p>
<p>Additionally an Atheistic philosophy such as Secular Humanism provides structure for a society that seeks to find balance between the needs of the individual and the needs of the many. A main principle of Secular Humanism reads, &#8220;A search for viable individual, social and political principles of ethical conduct, judging them on their ability to enhance human well-being and individual responsibility.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Make-Weight in the Making &#124; Front Porch Republic</title>
		<link>http://www.frontporchrepublic.com/2009/11/three-political-principles/#comment-22776</link>
		<dc:creator>Make-Weight in the Making &#124; Front Porch Republic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 20:26:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] to happen from a variety of centers. It is a kind of &#8220;make-weight&#8221; to which I referred here.  States could do the same sort of thing. The best (only?) way to stop the persistent encroachment [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] to happen from a variety of centers. It is a kind of &#8220;make-weight&#8221; to which I referred here.  States could do the same sort of thing. The best (only?) way to stop the persistent encroachment [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Bob Cheeks</title>
		<link>http://www.frontporchrepublic.com/2009/11/three-political-principles/#comment-22723</link>
		<dc:creator>Bob Cheeks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 15:00:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fulminate or not to fulminate...!
Well, I procured a bottle of Buffalo Trace yesterday and following a sumptuous dinner imbibed in two fingers over ice and just mellowed out albeit without the benefit of a decent cigar!
Now this talk of lever-action Marlin&#039;s is silliness gone awry! Remember the words of the immortal John Prine, &quot;Jesus don&#039;t like killin&#039; no matter what the reason&#039;s for....and your flag decal won&#039;t get you into heaven anymore!&quot;
Besides we must hold the barricades at all odds..we must make our stand as all good men should. And, I do believe our undocumented president is going to illustrate to you just how important &quot;health care&quot; truly is!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fulminate or not to fulminate&#8230;!<br />
Well, I procured a bottle of Buffalo Trace yesterday and following a sumptuous dinner imbibed in two fingers over ice and just mellowed out albeit without the benefit of a decent cigar!<br />
Now this talk of lever-action Marlin&#8217;s is silliness gone awry! Remember the words of the immortal John Prine, &#8220;Jesus don&#8217;t like killin&#8217; no matter what the reason&#8217;s for&#8230;.and your flag decal won&#8217;t get you into heaven anymore!&#8221;<br />
Besides we must hold the barricades at all odds..we must make our stand as all good men should. And, I do believe our undocumented president is going to illustrate to you just how important &#8220;health care&#8221; truly is!</p>
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		<title>By: D.W. Sabin</title>
		<link>http://www.frontporchrepublic.com/2009/11/three-political-principles/#comment-22718</link>
		<dc:creator>D.W. Sabin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 14:37:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A nod to Willson but.....I don&#039;t know......I tend to think the debate over definitions in a Front Porch Encyclopedia might be rather bracing and humorous. Getting down to brass tacks tends to sharpen the canines. As long, of course, that it can include something along the lines of a little Ambrose Bierce....as in these two nougats:

&quot;Washingtonian, n. A Potomac Tribesman who exchanged the privilege of governing himself for the advantage of good government . In justice to him, it should be said that he did not want to&quot;

and, dedicated to the fulminating Mr. Cheeks and his T Shirts:

&quot;Zig-Zag,v.t. To move forward uncertainly, from side to side as one carrying the White Man&#039;s Burden. (from zed, z, and jag, an Icelandic word of unknown meaning).&quot;

Actually Robert, it seems to me the transition from the previous administration to the current one has been relatively seamless. We were hacking away at the Constitution while engaged in Hair-brained Wars and spending money we did not have four years ago and we are still doing the same. Adding this boondoggle &quot;health care&quot; (as if it had much to do with actual care or the cost thereof) to the Black Hole will likely mean little . My own personal Health Care involves what I do with myself up to a point and if the point beyond that gets out of hand, there is always recourse to the old beloved lever action Marlin 30-30...a carbine, so we can reach the trigger whence aiming it at the seat of discomfit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A nod to Willson but&#8230;..I don&#8217;t know&#8230;&#8230;I tend to think the debate over definitions in a Front Porch Encyclopedia might be rather bracing and humorous. Getting down to brass tacks tends to sharpen the canines. As long, of course, that it can include something along the lines of a little Ambrose Bierce&#8230;.as in these two nougats:</p>
<p>&#8220;Washingtonian, n. A Potomac Tribesman who exchanged the privilege of governing himself for the advantage of good government . In justice to him, it should be said that he did not want to&#8221;</p>
<p>and, dedicated to the fulminating Mr. Cheeks and his T Shirts:</p>
<p>&#8220;Zig-Zag,v.t. To move forward uncertainly, from side to side as one carrying the White Man&#8217;s Burden. (from zed, z, and jag, an Icelandic word of unknown meaning).&#8221;</p>
<p>Actually Robert, it seems to me the transition from the previous administration to the current one has been relatively seamless. We were hacking away at the Constitution while engaged in Hair-brained Wars and spending money we did not have four years ago and we are still doing the same. Adding this boondoggle &#8220;health care&#8221; (as if it had much to do with actual care or the cost thereof) to the Black Hole will likely mean little . My own personal Health Care involves what I do with myself up to a point and if the point beyond that gets out of hand, there is always recourse to the old beloved lever action Marlin 30-30&#8230;a carbine, so we can reach the trigger whence aiming it at the seat of discomfit.</p>
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		<title>By: Matthew Wade</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matthew Wade</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 13:59:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How about giving some serious debate time to the candidates (perhaps vicariously through some of the regular contributors to this fnie site) in the upcoming mid-term elections? If you&#039;re not going to nominate your own candidate - I can forward you my phone number otherwise - then a commentary by you polished gentlemen, with the requisite ability for other porch-sitters to rebuke you, about the &quot;porchability&quot; of certain key candidates may provide some momentum to the movement of this site away from edifying bickering to pointless politicking.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How about giving some serious debate time to the candidates (perhaps vicariously through some of the regular contributors to this fnie site) in the upcoming mid-term elections? If you&#8217;re not going to nominate your own candidate &#8211; I can forward you my phone number otherwise &#8211; then a commentary by you polished gentlemen, with the requisite ability for other porch-sitters to rebuke you, about the &#8220;porchability&#8221; of certain key candidates may provide some momentum to the movement of this site away from edifying bickering to pointless politicking.</p>
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		<title>By: Joshua Alexander</title>
		<link>http://www.frontporchrepublic.com/2009/11/three-political-principles/#comment-22690</link>
		<dc:creator>Joshua Alexander</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 05:13:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is a testament to the good sense of FPRers, Bob, that they did not bite on your earlier comment. To its credit, FPR inhabits a dimension where the noise of the Hannitys and Huffingtons is so attenuated that it&#039;s frequently mistaken for the sound of something plopping into the murky waters below an outhouse seat.

For all its traffic in the realm of ideas, FPR has been moored to things terrestrial: make-weights, places, laws. Explicit congress with the celestial beings that constitute today&#039;s government (by way of critiquing the current regime) could capsize this/our nascent group. That time will come, but it is not now.


And now this, in response to several other commentators:

In the past two election cycles, now, the term &quot;electability&quot; has been bandied about, at once hesitantly and earnestly. The idea is that the candidate who makes himself sufficiently electable wins. The shrewdest candidate will not let on, though, that he is making himself electable. In fact, he may openly eschew the idea, thus making himself more electable. He understands that, deep down, voters want a leader who will stand up to them. They want someone they can believe in, and they know themselves well enough to look to someone wholly different from, even contrary to, themselves.

Now, I&#039;m not suggesting that FPR take a course in cunning and so fashion its agenda. (Though some fashion--cowboy hat--does appear necessary.) But I am warning that pursuing the naive form of electability will put FPR on the same wavelength as Glenn Beck.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is a testament to the good sense of FPRers, Bob, that they did not bite on your earlier comment. To its credit, FPR inhabits a dimension where the noise of the Hannitys and Huffingtons is so attenuated that it&#8217;s frequently mistaken for the sound of something plopping into the murky waters below an outhouse seat.</p>
<p>For all its traffic in the realm of ideas, FPR has been moored to things terrestrial: make-weights, places, laws. Explicit congress with the celestial beings that constitute today&#8217;s government (by way of critiquing the current regime) could capsize this/our nascent group. That time will come, but it is not now.</p>
<p>And now this, in response to several other commentators:</p>
<p>In the past two election cycles, now, the term &#8220;electability&#8221; has been bandied about, at once hesitantly and earnestly. The idea is that the candidate who makes himself sufficiently electable wins. The shrewdest candidate will not let on, though, that he is making himself electable. In fact, he may openly eschew the idea, thus making himself more electable. He understands that, deep down, voters want a leader who will stand up to them. They want someone they can believe in, and they know themselves well enough to look to someone wholly different from, even contrary to, themselves.</p>
<p>Now, I&#8217;m not suggesting that FPR take a course in cunning and so fashion its agenda. (Though some fashion&#8211;cowboy hat&#8211;does appear necessary.) But I am warning that pursuing the naive form of electability will put FPR on the same wavelength as Glenn Beck.</p>
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		<title>By: rex</title>
		<link>http://www.frontporchrepublic.com/2009/11/three-political-principles/#comment-22688</link>
		<dc:creator>rex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 04:12:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Darn it Mark, with all these blinking books I should read, I&#039;ll never get to the revolution. (John Médaille told me to get all of these pitch forks sharpened by morning or else.) 

I will read de Jouvenel&#039;s &quot;On Power&quot; - thank you. Please let me know if you want any 80&#039;s anarchist &#039;zines or &#039;libertarian socialist&#039; thought to fill your reading list;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Darn it Mark, with all these blinking books I should read, I&#8217;ll never get to the revolution. (John Médaille told me to get all of these pitch forks sharpened by morning or else.) </p>
<p>I will read de Jouvenel&#8217;s &#8220;On Power&#8221; &#8211; thank you. Please let me know if you want any 80&#8242;s anarchist &#8216;zines or &#8216;libertarian socialist&#8217; thought to fill your reading list;)</p>
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		<title>By: Ian Stewart</title>
		<link>http://www.frontporchrepublic.com/2009/11/three-political-principles/#comment-22674</link>
		<dc:creator>Ian Stewart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 22:34:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Regarding FPR 101, can I suggest a technical solution?

1. Take your list of archives out of your sidebar and make a dedicated &#039;archive&#039; page

2. Start &#039;tagging&#039; your articles and add a &#039;tag cloud&#039; to your archive page

3. Lastly, add a continually updated &#039;New to FPR? Read These Articles&#039; section to that archives page. Actually, that might be the first thing you&#039;d want to do.

I know these ideas might sound, I don&#039;t know, trivial, but new readers do need a place to orient themselves.

Good luck!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Regarding FPR 101, can I suggest a technical solution?</p>
<p>1. Take your list of archives out of your sidebar and make a dedicated &#8216;archive&#8217; page</p>
<p>2. Start &#8216;tagging&#8217; your articles and add a &#8216;tag cloud&#8217; to your archive page</p>
<p>3. Lastly, add a continually updated &#8216;New to FPR? Read These Articles&#8217; section to that archives page. Actually, that might be the first thing you&#8217;d want to do.</p>
<p>I know these ideas might sound, I don&#8217;t know, trivial, but new readers do need a place to orient themselves.</p>
<p>Good luck!</p>
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		<title>By: Bob Cheeks</title>
		<link>http://www.frontporchrepublic.com/2009/11/three-political-principles/#comment-22671</link>
		<dc:creator>Bob Cheeks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 22:11:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Me too Arben, you&#039;re my favorite leftist! That earlier comment had to do with trying to pick a fight, blow off steam, and generally annoy people...though I don&#039;t feel that I&#039;ve succeeded? Well, try, try, try!
BTW, I&#039;m ordering that sweatshirt I saw on TV that the Chi-Com kids were wearing where the Enlightened One is dressed in Mao garb...r4d star and all. Gotta have that.....!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Me too Arben, you&#8217;re my favorite leftist! That earlier comment had to do with trying to pick a fight, blow off steam, and generally annoy people&#8230;though I don&#8217;t feel that I&#8217;ve succeeded? Well, try, try, try!<br />
BTW, I&#8217;m ordering that sweatshirt I saw on TV that the Chi-Com kids were wearing where the Enlightened One is dressed in Mao garb&#8230;r4d star and all. Gotta have that&#8230;..!</p>
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		<title>By: micah</title>
		<link>http://www.frontporchrepublic.com/2009/11/three-political-principles/#comment-22670</link>
		<dc:creator>micah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 22:11:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>well, i&#039;ve been a big fan of the fact that they have farmer&#039;s markets everywhere. and generally canadians seem to favor local products. canadians also seem to have a better sense of personal limits. though, i suspect this is because canadians make less and taxes are higher. the same products are availabe as in the states, but people are much more careful about buying. and you still see a lot of the same consumerism, etc., just not at the same fevered pitch. also, canadians tend to be much quieter, so even if it were at the same fevered pitch, nobody would draw attention to themselves through it...

i have to admit i wasn&#039;t looking forward to moving up here, but, the bogeyman is never as scary as you think he is.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>well, i&#8217;ve been a big fan of the fact that they have farmer&#8217;s markets everywhere. and generally canadians seem to favor local products. canadians also seem to have a better sense of personal limits. though, i suspect this is because canadians make less and taxes are higher. the same products are availabe as in the states, but people are much more careful about buying. and you still see a lot of the same consumerism, etc., just not at the same fevered pitch. also, canadians tend to be much quieter, so even if it were at the same fevered pitch, nobody would draw attention to themselves through it&#8230;</p>
<p>i have to admit i wasn&#8217;t looking forward to moving up here, but, the bogeyman is never as scary as you think he is.</p>
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		<title>By: Russell Arben Fox</title>
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		<dc:creator>Russell Arben Fox</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 22:01:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Micah,

&lt;i&gt;actually, to be fair, canada, for all its centralization, does have some very interesting things set up that really favor local business and even local government over federal.&lt;/i&gt;

I agree with you. In fact, I had a post I was developing at one time about how Canada&#039;s centralized health-care system, among other things, enables more actual localism (in terms of people sticking with their jobs, staying in their home towns, and contributing to their communities rather than embracing the dream of mobility) than we have currently in the United States. But I&#039;m not sure it would have gone over with the majority of FPR&#039;s readers particularly well. Plus, I&#039;d just written a post about how feminist policies were an important aid to building a traditional family, and I figured I&#039;d already had enough heat from Bob for the month already. So I gave it up. Maybe some other time. (Hey, you know I love you, Bob.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Micah,</p>
<p><i>actually, to be fair, canada, for all its centralization, does have some very interesting things set up that really favor local business and even local government over federal.</i></p>
<p>I agree with you. In fact, I had a post I was developing at one time about how Canada&#8217;s centralized health-care system, among other things, enables more actual localism (in terms of people sticking with their jobs, staying in their home towns, and contributing to their communities rather than embracing the dream of mobility) than we have currently in the United States. But I&#8217;m not sure it would have gone over with the majority of FPR&#8217;s readers particularly well. Plus, I&#8217;d just written a post about how feminist policies were an important aid to building a traditional family, and I figured I&#8217;d already had enough heat from Bob for the month already. So I gave it up. Maybe some other time. (Hey, you know I love you, Bob.)</p>
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		<title>By: Justin Isaac</title>
		<link>http://www.frontporchrepublic.com/2009/11/three-political-principles/#comment-22667</link>
		<dc:creator>Justin Isaac</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 21:32:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ugh...3rd attempt, 6th attempt, whatever... &quot;Hey Justin, cut the chatter.&quot; ...ok...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ugh&#8230;3rd attempt, 6th attempt, whatever&#8230; &#8220;Hey Justin, cut the chatter.&#8221; &#8230;ok&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Justin Isaac</title>
		<link>http://www.frontporchrepublic.com/2009/11/three-political-principles/#comment-22666</link>
		<dc:creator>Justin Isaac</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 21:31:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is my third attempt at posting, so I apologize if there are multiple of the same comments from me...

Micah: google &quot;Earthships&quot; ...for some reason I can&#039;t post a link...sorry. If someone knows how, please tell me. 

I toured one in Taos during high desert winter last January...awesome. I would think that off-the-grid living might appeal to certain FPRers. The catch...they are expensive to build, but that is off-set by the fact that you don&#039;t have to pay for power or water, or any utilities for that matter, other than maintenance of the power distribution module. They can be built anywhere, as long as you have the land. 

This is my 6th attempt at posting. If it don&#039;t work this time, I&#039;m giving up...course, you&#039;ll never know...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is my third attempt at posting, so I apologize if there are multiple of the same comments from me&#8230;</p>
<p>Micah: google &#8220;Earthships&#8221; &#8230;for some reason I can&#8217;t post a link&#8230;sorry. If someone knows how, please tell me. </p>
<p>I toured one in Taos during high desert winter last January&#8230;awesome. I would think that off-the-grid living might appeal to certain FPRers. The catch&#8230;they are expensive to build, but that is off-set by the fact that you don&#8217;t have to pay for power or water, or any utilities for that matter, other than maintenance of the power distribution module. They can be built anywhere, as long as you have the land. </p>
<p>This is my 6th attempt at posting. If it don&#8217;t work this time, I&#8217;m giving up&#8230;course, you&#8217;ll never know&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Matthew Wade</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matthew Wade</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 21:31:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, where I grew up we did have one house/plot in the neighborhood, an aberration of three acres backed up by a tollway, with a beautiful front porch. The image of that house will never leave my mind as the symbol of what my homeland (Garland, not the U.S. - I haven&#039;t seen enough of the latter to know) was at one time. A few of us are working our way through the Social Encyclicals right now with a critical mind towards how these writings can be implemented in our lives as young managers. Perhaps a consideration: do the Social Encyclicals animate ya&#039;ll here in the same way?

micah, I&#039;m sorry to hear that the Great White North has falled down South. The Land of Hockey is better than that. I&#039;ll keep you in my thoughts and prayers. On the issue of the church, I think you have to either be careful about what your church supports, or get into a position within the church to change it. I know my Parish supports some activities that are less than local, if you know what I mean. While I donate just as much as the next guy to keeping the lights on and the pantries full, sometimes I secondguess myself in terms of donating through the church instead of by myself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, where I grew up we did have one house/plot in the neighborhood, an aberration of three acres backed up by a tollway, with a beautiful front porch. The image of that house will never leave my mind as the symbol of what my homeland (Garland, not the U.S. &#8211; I haven&#8217;t seen enough of the latter to know) was at one time. A few of us are working our way through the Social Encyclicals right now with a critical mind towards how these writings can be implemented in our lives as young managers. Perhaps a consideration: do the Social Encyclicals animate ya&#8217;ll here in the same way?</p>
<p>micah, I&#8217;m sorry to hear that the Great White North has falled down South. The Land of Hockey is better than that. I&#8217;ll keep you in my thoughts and prayers. On the issue of the church, I think you have to either be careful about what your church supports, or get into a position within the church to change it. I know my Parish supports some activities that are less than local, if you know what I mean. While I donate just as much as the next guy to keeping the lights on and the pantries full, sometimes I secondguess myself in terms of donating through the church instead of by myself.</p>
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		<title>By: micah</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 21:22:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>one other local investment strategy: the church. take care of your family, then give the rest to the church, perhaps the only true social safety net (outside of the family) we have left.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>one other local investment strategy: the church. take care of your family, then give the rest to the church, perhaps the only true social safety net (outside of the family) we have left.</p>
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		<title>By: micah</title>
		<link>http://www.frontporchrepublic.com/2009/11/three-political-principles/#comment-22660</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 21:19:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>alas, mr. wade, this is why FPR may not be very successful. i am, myself, in the land of free healthcare just north of america....good luck to me convincing all my neighbors of these ideas. actually, to be fair, canada, for all its centralization, does have some very interesting things set up that really favor local business and even local government over federal.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>alas, mr. wade, this is why FPR may not be very successful. i am, myself, in the land of free healthcare just north of america&#8230;.good luck to me convincing all my neighbors of these ideas. actually, to be fair, canada, for all its centralization, does have some very interesting things set up that really favor local business and even local government over federal.</p>
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