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		<title>By: David_notascynical</title>
		<link>http://www.frontporchrepublic.com/2009/12/homewreckers/#comment-23711</link>
		<dc:creator>David_notascynical</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Dec 2009 21:04:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How does &quot;leave and cleave&quot; enter into our discussion on the topic of multi-generational housing?  It is something I keep running into and cannot quite get a grasp on.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How does &#8220;leave and cleave&#8221; enter into our discussion on the topic of multi-generational housing?  It is something I keep running into and cannot quite get a grasp on.</p>
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		<title>By: Josh</title>
		<link>http://www.frontporchrepublic.com/2009/12/homewreckers/#comment-23673</link>
		<dc:creator>Josh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Dec 2009 03:29:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brian:

Glad to see you here.  I read your blog from time to time and always enjoy it.  I am curious about what part of Missouri you are from?  I am from Osceola, MO, about an hour north of Springfield.  I went East for college, south for law school, lived in Houston, TX for 10 years and then moved back home to Osceola.  

Josh</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brian:</p>
<p>Glad to see you here.  I read your blog from time to time and always enjoy it.  I am curious about what part of Missouri you are from?  I am from Osceola, MO, about an hour north of Springfield.  I went East for college, south for law school, lived in Houston, TX for 10 years and then moved back home to Osceola.  </p>
<p>Josh</p>
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		<title>By: Siarlys Jenkins</title>
		<link>http://www.frontporchrepublic.com/2009/12/homewreckers/#comment-23451</link>
		<dc:creator>Siarlys Jenkins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Dec 2009 03:54:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is time to recognize that someone needs to be at home, or there won&#039;t be a home, and everyone needs to be home some of the time, or they don&#039;t have a home. Now, try explaining that to the voracious masters of the cubicles, who are still acting like &quot;your job comes first.&quot; No, when I have a job, it is one part of my life. It is not the most important, nor is it the center of my life. If I&#039;m lucky it is one of the good parts of life, but it is never central. Oh, and let&#039;s remember, when you get down to actually doing canning, it is hard work. It may be picturesque to remember mom doing canning while we ran around playing because we were too young to help, and it may be nice to kick back and relax when the peaches and green tomatoes are on the shelf, but in between, its work. Good work, but let&#039;s not confuse it with a vacation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is time to recognize that someone needs to be at home, or there won&#8217;t be a home, and everyone needs to be home some of the time, or they don&#8217;t have a home. Now, try explaining that to the voracious masters of the cubicles, who are still acting like &#8220;your job comes first.&#8221; No, when I have a job, it is one part of my life. It is not the most important, nor is it the center of my life. If I&#8217;m lucky it is one of the good parts of life, but it is never central. Oh, and let&#8217;s remember, when you get down to actually doing canning, it is hard work. It may be picturesque to remember mom doing canning while we ran around playing because we were too young to help, and it may be nice to kick back and relax when the peaches and green tomatoes are on the shelf, but in between, its work. Good work, but let&#8217;s not confuse it with a vacation.</p>
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		<title>By: Will</title>
		<link>http://www.frontporchrepublic.com/2009/12/homewreckers/#comment-23423</link>
		<dc:creator>Will</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Dec 2009 19:24:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Last year I spent the night with my family in a farmhouse in rural Kildare.  The following morning, we were outside with the owners looking across the land, and asked about a brand new house about a mile across the fields.

&quot;Oh yes,&quot; said the farmer&#039;s wife, beaming, &quot;that&#039;s our daughters house.  No one builds small houses in Ireland anymore.&quot;

The farmhouse we were staying in had five bedrooms as it was, and the couple only had two children, as far as I could tell.  I hope it&#039;s worked out for them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Last year I spent the night with my family in a farmhouse in rural Kildare.  The following morning, we were outside with the owners looking across the land, and asked about a brand new house about a mile across the fields.</p>
<p>&#8220;Oh yes,&#8221; said the farmer&#8217;s wife, beaming, &#8220;that&#8217;s our daughters house.  No one builds small houses in Ireland anymore.&#8221;</p>
<p>The farmhouse we were staying in had five bedrooms as it was, and the couple only had two children, as far as I could tell.  I hope it&#8217;s worked out for them.</p>
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		<title>By: D.W. Sabin</title>
		<link>http://www.frontporchrepublic.com/2009/12/homewreckers/#comment-23364</link>
		<dc:creator>D.W. Sabin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Dec 2009 20:50:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ditto on Christopher Alexander......

Oh to still have a parent around to bother you.....but, Junior is back in town, fresh with a degree and so the old man employs him until he can get on &quot;his feet&quot; and find a job in a &quot;hipper&quot; locale so now  I must suffer the damnable insult of he and his mother &quot;organizing&quot; La Cave de la Obstrepereppi so that it might be made &quot;presentable&quot; and, hello,  the final perfidious straw: &quot;Cheerful&quot;. 

Personally, I find cigars, assorted rock specimens, dust, the vintage little smiling and chewed Barney Chair the dog used to fit in, the snoring dog, untold stacks of paper in various dishabille, a machete, a Black Velvet Mexican Sombrero, assorted bird nests and my fine little ceramic statue ( depicted in a bracing little film short by the daughter when she negotiated it out of a Shanghai Antique Dealer) of Mao sitting in a rattan chair and smoking a hand-rolled to be quite cheerful enough thank you. Right now, I&#039;d take the potato famine on a rock in blackest of Black Irish Cork over this importunate infringement upon my withered dignity. 

But, how lovely to have noise again.  It is amazing the music I&#039;ve been missing since they have been away. Not to mention the fact that there is now a Greek Chorus informing me how incapable and mad I am instead of the solo act that had gotten a little run down and therefore, tending  a tad too much toward bathos. The young bring new approaches to this important function.

Still, I cannot wait for the day when one of the ingrates shall produce a few sports and I can show up when they are 13 with a trampoline, a case of Sugar Daddies, some cigarettes and a bottle of peppermint schnapps.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ditto on Christopher Alexander&#8230;&#8230;</p>
<p>Oh to still have a parent around to bother you&#8230;..but, Junior is back in town, fresh with a degree and so the old man employs him until he can get on &#8220;his feet&#8221; and find a job in a &#8220;hipper&#8221; locale so now  I must suffer the damnable insult of he and his mother &#8220;organizing&#8221; La Cave de la Obstrepereppi so that it might be made &#8220;presentable&#8221; and, hello,  the final perfidious straw: &#8220;Cheerful&#8221;. </p>
<p>Personally, I find cigars, assorted rock specimens, dust, the vintage little smiling and chewed Barney Chair the dog used to fit in, the snoring dog, untold stacks of paper in various dishabille, a machete, a Black Velvet Mexican Sombrero, assorted bird nests and my fine little ceramic statue ( depicted in a bracing little film short by the daughter when she negotiated it out of a Shanghai Antique Dealer) of Mao sitting in a rattan chair and smoking a hand-rolled to be quite cheerful enough thank you. Right now, I&#8217;d take the potato famine on a rock in blackest of Black Irish Cork over this importunate infringement upon my withered dignity. </p>
<p>But, how lovely to have noise again.  It is amazing the music I&#8217;ve been missing since they have been away. Not to mention the fact that there is now a Greek Chorus informing me how incapable and mad I am instead of the solo act that had gotten a little run down and therefore, tending  a tad too much toward bathos. The young bring new approaches to this important function.</p>
<p>Still, I cannot wait for the day when one of the ingrates shall produce a few sports and I can show up when they are 13 with a trampoline, a case of Sugar Daddies, some cigarettes and a bottle of peppermint schnapps.</p>
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		<title>By: James Matthew Wilson</title>
		<link>http://www.frontporchrepublic.com/2009/12/homewreckers/#comment-23324</link>
		<dc:creator>James Matthew Wilson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Dec 2009 04:34:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As Brian probably knows, Nuala O&#039;Faolain published an article in the Irish Times about seven years ago on the socially destructive consequences of Irish grandparents retiring to Ibitha, etc.  While they go off to the land of sun and preserved health, they undermine the economy by necessitating professional childcare.  But the loss for Americans is even greater: grandparents at home is the human practice of which social security is a withering mockery.  Since that particular mockery won&#039;t be around much longer, I fully expect my children to repay my present hospitality with theirs in the future -- as we together curse the generations for whose excess we&#039;ll (still) be paying . . .</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As Brian probably knows, Nuala O&#8217;Faolain published an article in the Irish Times about seven years ago on the socially destructive consequences of Irish grandparents retiring to Ibitha, etc.  While they go off to the land of sun and preserved health, they undermine the economy by necessitating professional childcare.  But the loss for Americans is even greater: grandparents at home is the human practice of which social security is a withering mockery.  Since that particular mockery won&#8217;t be around much longer, I fully expect my children to repay my present hospitality with theirs in the future &#8212; as we together curse the generations for whose excess we&#8217;ll (still) be paying . . .</p>
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		<title>By: Cecelia</title>
		<link>http://www.frontporchrepublic.com/2009/12/homewreckers/#comment-23323</link>
		<dc:creator>Cecelia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Dec 2009 04:29:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>iw - weather has been prompting migration since humans discovered they could walk.

Abstractly, intergenrational living makes a lot of sense - but then you remember how annoying your mom can be about some things!

I suspect we will see an increase in these sorts of living arrangements when economic necessity pushes people into it.  I think these sorts of arrangements - if people can get along - take a lot of stress off the middle generations - those who are parenting now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>iw &#8211; weather has been prompting migration since humans discovered they could walk.</p>
<p>Abstractly, intergenrational living makes a lot of sense &#8211; but then you remember how annoying your mom can be about some things!</p>
<p>I suspect we will see an increase in these sorts of living arrangements when economic necessity pushes people into it.  I think these sorts of arrangements &#8211; if people can get along &#8211; take a lot of stress off the middle generations &#8211; those who are parenting now.</p>
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		<title>By: James Matthew Wilson</title>
		<link>http://www.frontporchrepublic.com/2009/12/homewreckers/#comment-23318</link>
		<dc:creator>James Matthew Wilson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Dec 2009 23:16:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks, and, yes.  The multi-generational home recommends itself for its practicality, and its practicality partially explains why it is the true type of the family.  Anything else -- the nuclear family, the contractual consumers eating and copulating on the rough road to divorce and new &quot;arrangements -- is a defective or decayed form of the family; these modern phenomena, contrary to contemporary assumptions, are marks of barbarism not civilization.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, and, yes.  The multi-generational home recommends itself for its practicality, and its practicality partially explains why it is the true type of the family.  Anything else &#8212; the nuclear family, the contractual consumers eating and copulating on the rough road to divorce and new &#8220;arrangements &#8212; is a defective or decayed form of the family; these modern phenomena, contrary to contemporary assumptions, are marks of barbarism not civilization.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Gordan</title>
		<link>http://www.frontporchrepublic.com/2009/12/homewreckers/#comment-23317</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve Gordan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Dec 2009 22:34:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You are right, In urban families most people work in a family and one person usually stay at home to cook meals and keep house, and families ate together.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You are right, In urban families most people work in a family and one person usually stay at home to cook meals and keep house, and families ate together.</p>
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		<title>By: TN</title>
		<link>http://www.frontporchrepublic.com/2009/12/homewreckers/#comment-23314</link>
		<dc:creator>TN</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Dec 2009 21:57:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Excellent piece! If you haven&#039;t come across it yet, I think you&#039;d enjoy the work of Christopher Alexander, particularly his landmark book, &quot;A Pattern Language.&quot; In his book, he describes several &#039;patterns&#039; that are common to places that are &#039;alive&#039;. One of the patterns is the granddaddy house (not the name Alexander uses), a cottage where a grandparent/s could live. I highly recommend his work: from an FPR perspective, it has much to commend itself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent piece! If you haven&#8217;t come across it yet, I think you&#8217;d enjoy the work of Christopher Alexander, particularly his landmark book, &#8220;A Pattern Language.&#8221; In his book, he describes several &#8216;patterns&#8217; that are common to places that are &#8216;alive&#8217;. One of the patterns is the granddaddy house (not the name Alexander uses), a cottage where a grandparent/s could live. I highly recommend his work: from an FPR perspective, it has much to commend itself.</p>
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		<title>By: iw</title>
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		<dc:creator>iw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Dec 2009 16:50:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;wildfires in the west, Mississippi floods, Dixie hurricanes &quot; nope, these things have been with us since time began. Blaming the environment for migration is irresponsible. We do escape because of urban blight and changing demographics. Whether or not you like it, the truth is (especially in Dallas) that Blacks displace Whites, Mexicans displace Blacks and then the cycle starts all over again. Where will all this end, when the last lot in Pecos is sold?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;wildfires in the west, Mississippi floods, Dixie hurricanes &#8221; nope, these things have been with us since time began. Blaming the environment for migration is irresponsible. We do escape because of urban blight and changing demographics. Whether or not you like it, the truth is (especially in Dallas) that Blacks displace Whites, Mexicans displace Blacks and then the cycle starts all over again. Where will all this end, when the last lot in Pecos is sold?</p>
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