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		<title>By: Peter B. Nelson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter B. Nelson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Dec 2009 15:38:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bravo, Mr. Stegall.  I, too, was disappointed by Mr. Berry&#039;s descent into partisan politics, but managed only a &quot;harrumph&quot; of protest.  You put it rather more neatly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bravo, Mr. Stegall.  I, too, was disappointed by Mr. Berry&#8217;s descent into partisan politics, but managed only a &#8220;harrumph&#8221; of protest.  You put it rather more neatly.</p>
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		<title>By: Siarlys Jenkins</title>
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		<dc:creator>Siarlys Jenkins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Dec 2009 03:46:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well now, I don&#039;t know how y&#039;all do things on the left coasts, but here in the upper midwest, where we&#039;ve been hemorrhaging good paying jobs for working stiffs since Ronald Reagan decided that deficits don&#039;t matter, most of the people who voted for Obama in 2008 can&#039;t exactly afford to hire yard help, unless it&#039;s the kid across the street. Our Hispanic neighbors have to find jobs with landscaping crews, or out on farms, or in what&#039;s left of manufacturing, or even driving buses, because we do our own yards, if we have any. Now I don&#039;t know that anyone needs permission from the gummint to grow a garden, but its as good a use for the White House lawn as any other. I haven&#039;t been keeping up on Mr. Berry, but if he wants to spin a little extra motivation for people to grow a little of their own food off Michelle&#039;s garden, more power to him. The sad fact is, our population is too large to keep us all fed on little home-grown plots, which is a weakness for both Berry and Obama. We need intensive farming to feed 300 million and growing. But, with the price of gas going up, it may not be economical to fly apples in from New Zealand and truck tomatoes from California while we fly American apples to Norway. So, I&#039;m looking for the day we tear up a subdivision to plant an orchard.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well now, I don&#8217;t know how y&#8217;all do things on the left coasts, but here in the upper midwest, where we&#8217;ve been hemorrhaging good paying jobs for working stiffs since Ronald Reagan decided that deficits don&#8217;t matter, most of the people who voted for Obama in 2008 can&#8217;t exactly afford to hire yard help, unless it&#8217;s the kid across the street. Our Hispanic neighbors have to find jobs with landscaping crews, or out on farms, or in what&#8217;s left of manufacturing, or even driving buses, because we do our own yards, if we have any. Now I don&#8217;t know that anyone needs permission from the gummint to grow a garden, but its as good a use for the White House lawn as any other. I haven&#8217;t been keeping up on Mr. Berry, but if he wants to spin a little extra motivation for people to grow a little of their own food off Michelle&#8217;s garden, more power to him. The sad fact is, our population is too large to keep us all fed on little home-grown plots, which is a weakness for both Berry and Obama. We need intensive farming to feed 300 million and growing. But, with the price of gas going up, it may not be economical to fly apples in from New Zealand and truck tomatoes from California while we fly American apples to Norway. So, I&#8217;m looking for the day we tear up a subdivision to plant an orchard.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob Cheeks</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bob Cheeks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Dec 2009 19:54:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Emotive, bro DW, emotive. However, Prosecutor Stegall&#039;s initiating blog incorporated a question implicit, and made explicit by Mr. Willson, e.g. the nature of Wendell&#039;s Chrisitianity or lack thereof, and it&#039;s proper expression in contemporary America. Reminding me of Francis Schaeffer&#039;s &quot;How Then Should We Live,&quot; and a question that just keeps on giving.
Mr. Cooney proffered a learned comment or two, much appreciated, but I would like to hear from our academics, and additional fellow interlocutors, re: Berry&#039;s relationship of God, man, and planet. Is he, indeed, Christian, neopagan, world-immanentist.....what? And, in the end, how does the question of &#039;religion&#039; apply to the FPR effort?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Emotive, bro DW, emotive. However, Prosecutor Stegall&#8217;s initiating blog incorporated a question implicit, and made explicit by Mr. Willson, e.g. the nature of Wendell&#8217;s Chrisitianity or lack thereof, and it&#8217;s proper expression in contemporary America. Reminding me of Francis Schaeffer&#8217;s &#8220;How Then Should We Live,&#8221; and a question that just keeps on giving.<br />
Mr. Cooney proffered a learned comment or two, much appreciated, but I would like to hear from our academics, and additional fellow interlocutors, re: Berry&#8217;s relationship of God, man, and planet. Is he, indeed, Christian, neopagan, world-immanentist&#8230;..what? And, in the end, how does the question of &#8216;religion&#8217; apply to the FPR effort?</p>
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		<title>By: John Willson</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Willson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Dec 2009 19:52:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Warn&#039;t dIssectin&#039;, D.W., just askin.&#039;

Mr. Berry waxes eloquent about scythes, likes them better than weed eaters, but Michelle (or Jackie K) couldn&#039;t use either, and insults the ground she pretends to rake.  And I don&#039;t for one millisecond care.

But it makes very great difference from what moral angle one starts spoutin.&#039;

The judge in Arkansas who tossed a case out of court and lectured the dumb lawyer who brought it by saying &quot;Don&#039;t try to teach a pig to sing.  It can&#039;t be done, and it annoys the pig.&quot; has my question exactly right.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Warn&#8217;t dIssectin&#8217;, D.W., just askin.&#8217;</p>
<p>Mr. Berry waxes eloquent about scythes, likes them better than weed eaters, but Michelle (or Jackie K) couldn&#8217;t use either, and insults the ground she pretends to rake.  And I don&#8217;t for one millisecond care.</p>
<p>But it makes very great difference from what moral angle one starts spoutin.&#8217;</p>
<p>The judge in Arkansas who tossed a case out of court and lectured the dumb lawyer who brought it by saying &#8220;Don&#8217;t try to teach a pig to sing.  It can&#8217;t be done, and it annoys the pig.&#8221; has my question exactly right.</p>
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		<title>By: D.W. Sabin</title>
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		<dc:creator>D.W. Sabin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Dec 2009 17:52:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Funny how this stream starts with questioning the good Mr. Berry&#039;s enthusiasms for a certain plot of ground @ the White House and then descends into a dissection of his Faith.......as though it has any bearing upon the original moment of enthusiasm or indeed anything, for that matter ...ocurring in Foggy Bottom, despite every speech loudly proclaiming an automatic shout out to the Guy Upstairs in his expected unilateral support of our lapsed republic. 

Mr. Berry saluted a White House that adds backyard produce to its menu rather than a general Fatwa against Broccoli or Suffi Love Poems about cheeseburgers, deadly pretzels and delicious pork rinds. The central point is that he acknowledges, inadvertently or otherwise.... the fact that the people of this country, against their best interests now treat the White House as though it was the Kaaba at Mecca...waiting patiently for the portents from on high to come down and provide the fundamental signs as to how we must live. Perhaps the Kaaba is an unfortunate metaphor, it is more of the nature of Delphi, complete with intoxicating sulphureous gasses and the gibberish of many well-paid oracles. It sounds more like a Pagan Cult to me than anything having to do with Christianity. Come to think of it, for the decisions currently emanating out of the holy city of legislative devotions, chicken entrails divination would likely suffice.

1,000 of the 1001 cameras in our besotted media are trained upon the Federal District and we think it newsworthy....no matter who utters it.... that someone might characterize a piece of ground bathed in the klieg lights of our continuous attentions as &quot;the most important plot of land in America&quot;? About the time that 501 cameras of the 1,001 are trained anywhere but Washington or its Wars and Financial Chicanery, then it just might be worth our while to note something going on there as though it might be worthwhile or worthy of emulation. Personally, I&#039;d just as soon pull the plug on the entire sorry lot of them. Our federal government has grown beyond moderation to an addiction and with this addiction comes all the various pathologies of addiction, physical and psychological. The dirty curb looks entirely normal to those who inhabit it and like any drunk, this drunk can&#039;t help himself, he is the author of his actions but these actions are set in place by the embrace, not of evil per se but of a weak acquiescence in service to short term gratification that flirts to readily with evil. In other words, whose fault it all is becomes immaterial and secondary to the need for the drunk to step away from his poison, both internal and external.

I think it is good Stegall pointed this out because even those who disdain much of what this government does, remain closely fixated upon it as though this fixation might provide that burn in the gut as the liquor hits its mark.....myself included.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Funny how this stream starts with questioning the good Mr. Berry&#8217;s enthusiasms for a certain plot of ground @ the White House and then descends into a dissection of his Faith&#8230;&#8230;.as though it has any bearing upon the original moment of enthusiasm or indeed anything, for that matter &#8230;ocurring in Foggy Bottom, despite every speech loudly proclaiming an automatic shout out to the Guy Upstairs in his expected unilateral support of our lapsed republic. </p>
<p>Mr. Berry saluted a White House that adds backyard produce to its menu rather than a general Fatwa against Broccoli or Suffi Love Poems about cheeseburgers, deadly pretzels and delicious pork rinds. The central point is that he acknowledges, inadvertently or otherwise&#8230;. the fact that the people of this country, against their best interests now treat the White House as though it was the Kaaba at Mecca&#8230;waiting patiently for the portents from on high to come down and provide the fundamental signs as to how we must live. Perhaps the Kaaba is an unfortunate metaphor, it is more of the nature of Delphi, complete with intoxicating sulphureous gasses and the gibberish of many well-paid oracles. It sounds more like a Pagan Cult to me than anything having to do with Christianity. Come to think of it, for the decisions currently emanating out of the holy city of legislative devotions, chicken entrails divination would likely suffice.</p>
<p>1,000 of the 1001 cameras in our besotted media are trained upon the Federal District and we think it newsworthy&#8230;.no matter who utters it&#8230;. that someone might characterize a piece of ground bathed in the klieg lights of our continuous attentions as &#8220;the most important plot of land in America&#8221;? About the time that 501 cameras of the 1,001 are trained anywhere but Washington or its Wars and Financial Chicanery, then it just might be worth our while to note something going on there as though it might be worthwhile or worthy of emulation. Personally, I&#8217;d just as soon pull the plug on the entire sorry lot of them. Our federal government has grown beyond moderation to an addiction and with this addiction comes all the various pathologies of addiction, physical and psychological. The dirty curb looks entirely normal to those who inhabit it and like any drunk, this drunk can&#8217;t help himself, he is the author of his actions but these actions are set in place by the embrace, not of evil per se but of a weak acquiescence in service to short term gratification that flirts to readily with evil. In other words, whose fault it all is becomes immaterial and secondary to the need for the drunk to step away from his poison, both internal and external.</p>
<p>I think it is good Stegall pointed this out because even those who disdain much of what this government does, remain closely fixated upon it as though this fixation might provide that burn in the gut as the liquor hits its mark&#8230;..myself included.</p>
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		<title>By: Josh Cooney</title>
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		<dc:creator>Josh Cooney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Dec 2009 15:41:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Berry, I believe, regularly attends a Southern Baptist Church.  And though I can&#039;t recall the exact titles of certain essays that would prove this to be so, he is very much a Christian and, moreover, writes within the context of Christian tradition, especially as that tradition is manifest in Christian literature from Dante and Chaucer to T.S. Eliot.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Berry, I believe, regularly attends a Southern Baptist Church.  And though I can&#8217;t recall the exact titles of certain essays that would prove this to be so, he is very much a Christian and, moreover, writes within the context of Christian tradition, especially as that tradition is manifest in Christian literature from Dante and Chaucer to T.S. Eliot.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob Cheeks</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bob Cheeks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Dec 2009 21:06:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>DW, as always thanks for your sage advice, no doubt proffered from your cigar smoke shrouded office.

I&#039;m not surprised, that in your salad days you ran with a crowd of mind-blown hippie dudes and dudettes who, I would remind you, are somebody&#039;s grandpa and grandma and doing their best to hide their past in much the same manner a cat covers his droppings.

And, for your information, I own the a copy of the first issue of Mother Earth News published in 1968, I believe!

However, in all honesty, my worst offense was a toke or two. When offered an acid tab by an old friend just returned from the &#039;Nam,&#039; I chickened out, and am forever pleased with my prescient decision to &quot;just say no,&quot; in agreement with Nancy Reagan. My pal lives out on his farm, in a house he built on his own, making furniture and forever doomed to search for his mind...I love the dude!

Again, thanks for the advice!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DW, as always thanks for your sage advice, no doubt proffered from your cigar smoke shrouded office.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not surprised, that in your salad days you ran with a crowd of mind-blown hippie dudes and dudettes who, I would remind you, are somebody&#8217;s grandpa and grandma and doing their best to hide their past in much the same manner a cat covers his droppings.</p>
<p>And, for your information, I own the a copy of the first issue of Mother Earth News published in 1968, I believe!</p>
<p>However, in all honesty, my worst offense was a toke or two. When offered an acid tab by an old friend just returned from the &#8216;Nam,&#8217; I chickened out, and am forever pleased with my prescient decision to &#8220;just say no,&#8221; in agreement with Nancy Reagan. My pal lives out on his farm, in a house he built on his own, making furniture and forever doomed to search for his mind&#8230;I love the dude!</p>
<p>Again, thanks for the advice!</p>
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		<title>By: D.W. Sabin</title>
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		<dc:creator>D.W. Sabin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Dec 2009 19:15:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cheeks, 
Now you&#039;ve done it, some of my best friends are ...well, maybe were, some maybe still but, to my point, some of my best friends are &quot;wacky, long-haired, back-to-the-land, enviro wacko Yazgur (sic) Farm wannabees&quot;. This is a small sub-culture which generally keeps to itself in the Mountains near Humboldt California and so what if they combine large spliffs, genetically modified crops in guerilla agriculture on public lands with semi-automatic weapons, theirs is at least an original and picturesque...or is that picaresque subculture. They would be the last people to care what kind of foolhardy antics are being sprung in that rathole clusterboink in Washington D.C. and some actually fly the Gadsden Flag, if only for their own specific reasons. 

Cheeks, you need to concentrate on a more productive enemies list. Maybe Haldeman might have left something in writing about it. Next thing you know, your compound hit list will include &quot;gay Dog Show groupies&quot; or &quot;wiccan vegetarian lesbian rock climbers&quot; and its going to get complicated.

You need to try harder to be a little more Dude-like. Buy yourself a ratty cardigan, some bermuda shorts and sandals and Dudify Dude.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cheeks,<br />
Now you&#8217;ve done it, some of my best friends are &#8230;well, maybe were, some maybe still but, to my point, some of my best friends are &#8220;wacky, long-haired, back-to-the-land, enviro wacko Yazgur (sic) Farm wannabees&#8221;. This is a small sub-culture which generally keeps to itself in the Mountains near Humboldt California and so what if they combine large spliffs, genetically modified crops in guerilla agriculture on public lands with semi-automatic weapons, theirs is at least an original and picturesque&#8230;or is that picaresque subculture. They would be the last people to care what kind of foolhardy antics are being sprung in that rathole clusterboink in Washington D.C. and some actually fly the Gadsden Flag, if only for their own specific reasons. </p>
<p>Cheeks, you need to concentrate on a more productive enemies list. Maybe Haldeman might have left something in writing about it. Next thing you know, your compound hit list will include &#8220;gay Dog Show groupies&#8221; or &#8220;wiccan vegetarian lesbian rock climbers&#8221; and its going to get complicated.</p>
<p>You need to try harder to be a little more Dude-like. Buy yourself a ratty cardigan, some bermuda shorts and sandals and Dudify Dude.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob Cheeks</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bob Cheeks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Dec 2009 16:47:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is Wendell a Christian? 
I think, yes, very much so, but I can&#039;t tell you what, if any particular discipline he practices. Berry, I think, tries very hard to  be a Christian of the &quot;heart,&quot; and doesn&#039;t worry so much about the building. He is, I think, a &quot;wholistic&quot; Christian.
His essay, &quot;God and Country,&quot; in &quot;The Essays of Wendell Berry: What Are People For?&quot; is most telling.
I trust there are those visitors to the Porch who would know more of this question than I do, and I hope they might comment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is Wendell a Christian?<br />
I think, yes, very much so, but I can&#8217;t tell you what, if any particular discipline he practices. Berry, I think, tries very hard to  be a Christian of the &#8220;heart,&#8221; and doesn&#8217;t worry so much about the building. He is, I think, a &#8220;wholistic&#8221; Christian.<br />
His essay, &#8220;God and Country,&#8221; in &#8220;The Essays of Wendell Berry: What Are People For?&#8221; is most telling.<br />
I trust there are those visitors to the Porch who would know more of this question than I do, and I hope they might comment.</p>
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		<title>By: J.D. Salyer</title>
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		<dc:creator>J.D. Salyer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Dec 2009 15:19:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Obamas, and the Bushies, and the Clintons, the Cheneys, etc. are all cozy members of a global elite class which has and will continue to do everything in its power to eradicate what little is left of Kentucky&#039;s unique historical identity.  

To say nothing of mountains of dead babies.

I don&#039;t care if one of &#039;em puts up a fence and start raising cattle -- none of those folks have anything to do with me or mine.

No disrespect to Mr. Berry intended.  Nobody&#039;s perfect.  But he is mistaken to give any of Those People any credit whatsoever for their posing and posturing.  

It&#039;s like praising Obama for our now having a humbler foreign policy.  Ummmm......

&quot;And at least he knows enough to put on some work clothes, and gloves!  Yeah, I can see my wife working our garden in that outfit.&quot;

LOL from those lines, Mr. Stegall.  If the guys who made SPINAL TAP were to do a movie about politics, the image in question would assuredly appear in it.  

Maybe along with a scene where the President works on a Ford assembly line dressed in a polo shirt &amp; khakis.

(I apologize, BTW, for going off the handle a while back over the whole Takimag / Pagan-Christianity thing.  It caught me by surprise, and I was somewhat blunter than I perhaps intended.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Obamas, and the Bushies, and the Clintons, the Cheneys, etc. are all cozy members of a global elite class which has and will continue to do everything in its power to eradicate what little is left of Kentucky&#8217;s unique historical identity.  </p>
<p>To say nothing of mountains of dead babies.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t care if one of &#8216;em puts up a fence and start raising cattle &#8212; none of those folks have anything to do with me or mine.</p>
<p>No disrespect to Mr. Berry intended.  Nobody&#8217;s perfect.  But he is mistaken to give any of Those People any credit whatsoever for their posing and posturing.  </p>
<p>It&#8217;s like praising Obama for our now having a humbler foreign policy.  Ummmm&#8230;&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8220;And at least he knows enough to put on some work clothes, and gloves!  Yeah, I can see my wife working our garden in that outfit.&#8221;</p>
<p>LOL from those lines, Mr. Stegall.  If the guys who made SPINAL TAP were to do a movie about politics, the image in question would assuredly appear in it.  </p>
<p>Maybe along with a scene where the President works on a Ford assembly line dressed in a polo shirt &amp; khakis.</p>
<p>(I apologize, BTW, for going off the handle a while back over the whole Takimag / Pagan-Christianity thing.  It caught me by surprise, and I was somewhat blunter than I perhaps intended.)</p>
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		<title>By: John Willson</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Willson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Dec 2009 15:04:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is Wendell a Christian?</description>
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		<title>By: Bob Cheeks</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bob Cheeks</dc:creator>
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		<description>Stegall, you have opened a can of worms here.

If I remember correctly Wendell expressed a certain appreciation for those various and sundry political programs that benefited the &#039;small&#039; farmer, which makes him either a political pragmatist or one of the them FDR New Dealers. Nothin&#039; wrong with that if you think the system, that gets regularly pounded here on the Porch, is salvageable.
However, you&#039;ve also got that enviro-weenie business, and Wendell has been known to run with them people. Plus, he doesn&#039;t hide the fact that he&#039;s a Christian!

So here we have a fellow, arguably America&#039;s most significant living novelist, who likes gummint programs that benefit the small farmer, likes wacky, long-haired, back-to-the-land, enviro-wacko, Yazgur Farm wannabees, and prays to Jesus! AND, on top of that, this righteous dude is praising our first undocumented, Kenyan president and his lovely wife, the ever gracious Michelle ma&#039; Belle, for having a &quot;organic&quot; garden in the backyard, knowing full well that thanks to her idiot husband&#039;s commie policies everybody damn-well better have a garden in their backyard if they plan on feedin&#039; the kids next year!

So my concern is that Wendell is turning his back on the Port William Membership! There ain&#039;t none of them people would ever get in a line for a gummint handout, or to vote for some socialist talkin&#039; about redistributing the wealth!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stegall, you have opened a can of worms here.</p>
<p>If I remember correctly Wendell expressed a certain appreciation for those various and sundry political programs that benefited the &#8216;small&#8217; farmer, which makes him either a political pragmatist or one of the them FDR New Dealers. Nothin&#8217; wrong with that if you think the system, that gets regularly pounded here on the Porch, is salvageable.<br />
However, you&#8217;ve also got that enviro-weenie business, and Wendell has been known to run with them people. Plus, he doesn&#8217;t hide the fact that he&#8217;s a Christian!</p>
<p>So here we have a fellow, arguably America&#8217;s most significant living novelist, who likes gummint programs that benefit the small farmer, likes wacky, long-haired, back-to-the-land, enviro-wacko, Yazgur Farm wannabees, and prays to Jesus! AND, on top of that, this righteous dude is praising our first undocumented, Kenyan president and his lovely wife, the ever gracious Michelle ma&#8217; Belle, for having a &#8220;organic&#8221; garden in the backyard, knowing full well that thanks to her idiot husband&#8217;s commie policies everybody damn-well better have a garden in their backyard if they plan on feedin&#8217; the kids next year!</p>
<p>So my concern is that Wendell is turning his back on the Port William Membership! There ain&#8217;t none of them people would ever get in a line for a gummint handout, or to vote for some socialist talkin&#8217; about redistributing the wealth!</p>
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		<title>By: Caleb Stegall</title>
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		<dc:creator>Caleb Stegall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Dec 2009 05:18:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I seem to have touched a nerve.  I stand by my comments, both calling Berry a great man (twice!) and critiquing what was, yes, admittedly, a minor portion of a live radio broadcast, but still significant, and significantly wrong, I think.

DW, you can share my chops&#039;n&#039;applesauce any day of the week.

Byron, Patrick.  Patrick, Byron.  Since I know you both and this here internet gizmo makes normal societal relations so awkward, let me play mediator and vouch for both of you.  Which is enough to get you fired in some quarters.  But since Byron is an entrepenuerial left-wing localist small bookstore owner in rural PA who has probably read everything Berry has ever written and since Patrick is a tenured radical in the belly of the university beast who has forgotten more than I&#039;ll ever know about Berry, political theories of decentralization, the alternative tradition in America, and pretty much every other subject worth knowing, I guess you&#039;re both as safe as the White House sod under Michelle&#039;ma&#039;Belle&#039;s rake.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I seem to have touched a nerve.  I stand by my comments, both calling Berry a great man (twice!) and critiquing what was, yes, admittedly, a minor portion of a live radio broadcast, but still significant, and significantly wrong, I think.</p>
<p>DW, you can share my chops&#8217;n'applesauce any day of the week.</p>
<p>Byron, Patrick.  Patrick, Byron.  Since I know you both and this here internet gizmo makes normal societal relations so awkward, let me play mediator and vouch for both of you.  Which is enough to get you fired in some quarters.  But since Byron is an entrepenuerial left-wing localist small bookstore owner in rural PA who has probably read everything Berry has ever written and since Patrick is a tenured radical in the belly of the university beast who has forgotten more than I&#8217;ll ever know about Berry, political theories of decentralization, the alternative tradition in America, and pretty much every other subject worth knowing, I guess you&#8217;re both as safe as the White House sod under Michelle&#8217;ma&#8217;Belle&#8217;s rake.</p>
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		<title>By: Patrick J. Deneen</title>
		<link>http://www.frontporchrepublic.com/2009/12/we-interrupt-this-broadcast-for-a-moment-of-rank-cynicism/#comment-23322</link>
		<dc:creator>Patrick J. Deneen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Dec 2009 03:09:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Byron Borger,
Lighten up - it&#039;s the internet.  I&#039;ll provide a detailed and subtle analysis of Obama&#039;s various electoral constituencies and their likely household lawn habits - with footnotes and all accompanying subtle reservations - in a subsequent post.  

Not.

You miss my tree-like point for the forest of your indignation.  Sadly, there&#039;s a lot of focus on one minor detail of an interview with Wendell Berry that took place on a live radio program.  I wouldn&#039;t conclude that this statement reflects his deep consideration of the many implications of what is probably a sense of satisfaction that there&#039;s an organic garden at the White House.  After all, this is a man who has been excoriated and damned for decades by the Political and Industrial Powers for being a fringe lunatic - and now there&#039;s an organic garden at the White House.  I can&#039;t begrudge the man some degree of felt satisfaction that his life&#039;s work and words may have had some effect - however imperfect - in the world.

That said, if you&#039;re going to draw conclusions about him based on his words, I&#039;d spend some time with his 30+ books before drawing conclusions from 30 seconds on a radio show.  Sheesh.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Byron Borger,<br />
Lighten up &#8211; it&#8217;s the internet.  I&#8217;ll provide a detailed and subtle analysis of Obama&#8217;s various electoral constituencies and their likely household lawn habits &#8211; with footnotes and all accompanying subtle reservations &#8211; in a subsequent post.  </p>
<p>Not.</p>
<p>You miss my tree-like point for the forest of your indignation.  Sadly, there&#8217;s a lot of focus on one minor detail of an interview with Wendell Berry that took place on a live radio program.  I wouldn&#8217;t conclude that this statement reflects his deep consideration of the many implications of what is probably a sense of satisfaction that there&#8217;s an organic garden at the White House.  After all, this is a man who has been excoriated and damned for decades by the Political and Industrial Powers for being a fringe lunatic &#8211; and now there&#8217;s an organic garden at the White House.  I can&#8217;t begrudge the man some degree of felt satisfaction that his life&#8217;s work and words may have had some effect &#8211; however imperfect &#8211; in the world.</p>
<p>That said, if you&#8217;re going to draw conclusions about him based on his words, I&#8217;d spend some time with his 30+ books before drawing conclusions from 30 seconds on a radio show.  Sheesh.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Parsons</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill Parsons</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Dec 2009 02:59:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, them boots just about say it all.  Instead of viewing the video I think I&#039;ll stick with my original plan and re-read that copy of Hannah Coulter I checked out of the public library last week.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, them boots just about say it all.  Instead of viewing the video I think I&#8217;ll stick with my original plan and re-read that copy of Hannah Coulter I checked out of the public library last week.</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Daniel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Dec 2009 02:45:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If the current residents of the White House are so into self-sufficiency, as implied in this &quot;home gardening&quot; stunt, why are they so bound and determined to wrest power from the people and put it in the hands of a bunch of faceless bureaucrats in Washington D.C.? 

Is it now a &quot;localist&quot; virtue to support federal government providing symbolic &quot;permission&quot; for people to grow their own food? I think this shows just how deep the Progressivist rot runs in the American character. When people need to look to a couple of ardent big government leftists for approval to be self-sufficient, then the phrase &#039;self-sufficient&#039; is meaningless.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If the current residents of the White House are so into self-sufficiency, as implied in this &#8220;home gardening&#8221; stunt, why are they so bound and determined to wrest power from the people and put it in the hands of a bunch of faceless bureaucrats in Washington D.C.? </p>
<p>Is it now a &#8220;localist&#8221; virtue to support federal government providing symbolic &#8220;permission&#8221; for people to grow their own food? I think this shows just how deep the Progressivist rot runs in the American character. When people need to look to a couple of ardent big government leftists for approval to be self-sufficient, then the phrase &#8216;self-sufficient&#8217; is meaningless.</p>
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