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[…] But a certain cabal deemed my book “inconvenient.” Not wrong-headed, inaccurate, or irrelevant: just inconvenient. I had argued for a more humble American foreign policy whereas the cabal was beating the drums for a proud, ambitious, militant one. I have since pieced together the chain of interlocutors through which the word “inconvenient” moved from its author to the person who conveyed it to me. I won’t name names, but readers may guess who some of them were. They were the ones who tried to spike good reviews of the book, ordered their minions to nip at my heels in print or gatherings like the Philadelphia Society, and in one prominent case would devote years to writing a two-volume history of U.S. diplomacy meant to refute McDougall’s interpretation of what it originally meant to be American, and therefore, under the doctrine of original intent, what it means today to be conservative.

I refer, needless to say, to the neoconservatives who—as I first learned from James Kurth—are neither new nor conservative. But even as they burned our bridge from their end I inadvertently kindled flames on my end in the last piece Commentary ever asked me to write. I had the chutzpah to comment unfavorably on a narcissistic essay by Norman Podhoretz in which he recalled his circuitous path from Trotskyite Bolshevism to neoconservatism. It was then that I learned that it isn’t enough to occupy the same political space as the neocons; you must have arrived there by the same path. That is why people whose traditionalism, libertarianism, or Christianity informed their conservatism were suspect in the eyes of elite refugees from the Left.

We know who won out in the middle run. Whether or not they “hijacked” the G. W. Bush administration after 9/11, the neocons certainly got their way for five years: years during which the United States got bogged down in two unwinnable, unendable wars that have exhausted the Army and helped to double the national debt. They pretended they hadn’t been scheming to invade Iraq since the 1990s. They pretended the invasion was all about weapons of mass destruction rather than terrorism, oil, the Bush family feud with Saddam, Karl Rove’s re-election calendar, Israel, or democratizing the Middle East. They pretended it could all be done quickly and on the cheap. They pretended they had a game plan for a new Iraqi regime. Like most war parties in American history they hustled the Congress, the public, and some foreign allies only to hustle themselves in the end.

Happily—we conservatives specialize in happiness—I spent the Global War on Terror on the sidelines. Earlier in 2001 I had stepped down as editor of Orbis and immersed myself in a new narrative of American history. Since I’ve now published two fat books that only get down to 1877, chances are slim I shall ever finish the project. But it has been very rewarding. First, my study of colonial and early national history has taught me an immense amount about America’s origins and character, indeed taught what I needed to know in order to understand what sort of world power the U.S. became after 1898. Second, the project gave me an excuse to sit out contemporary debates on terrorism, the Bush Doctrine, and the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq. However, having learned what I did about America, I am now eager to revisit Promised Land, Crusader State and carry its analysis down to the present.

Freedom Just Around the Corner: A New American History 1585-1828, appeared in early 2004 and was influenced by the mood of the first half of the last decade, when memories were fresh of the hegemony, prosperity, and careless corruption of the Bill Clinton era, and the early successes of the War on Terror warranted optimism.4 Of course, Freedom was also a success story in that it told of the spectacular growth of the thirteen colonies, nearly miraculous achievement of independence and a constitutional republic, and frenetic territorial, demographic, and economic growth down to the election of Andrew Jackson. The story was loaded with hustling, because colonists began scoffing law and authority in the name of liberty and wealth from the moment they debarked in North America. But I was smitten by Americans’ virtues and vices alike, and wondered at their genius for making both serve the national purpose. Throes of Democracy, by contrast, appeared in early 2008 and was influenced by the mood of the last half of the decade, when the Bush Doctrine, Global War on Terror, crusade to rid the world of tyranny, and campaign to democratize the Middle East had bred disaster more swiftly and irreversibly than even I had feared.5 Of course, Throes was also a far gloomier tale than Freedom because it covered the decades when the blithe hustling, mobbing, lawless Americans fell through pretense and pride over slavery into the slaughter of Civil War, followed by Reconstruction, their first failed experiment in nation-building.

Since that book appeared the other shoe dropped: no, not another 9/11 type attack as we feared, but a far more damaging, self-inflicted attack centered on Wall Street launched by the purveyors of sub-prime mortgages, the investors who bid up the baskets of rotten apples thinking to make a killing in the real estate bubble, the foolish central bankers and regulators who encouraged the hustle, and the mercenary members of Congress who had sweetheart relationships with all the above. Now, in both of my volumes I had stressed the phenomenon of creative corruption in American life. In every era America’s leaders, the ones inventing everyone’s future, evinced the qualities of the hustler and dodger, finding ways around obstacles to change and growth whether or not they conformed to ethics and laws. Whenever such corruption was perceived as damaging to society and of benefit only to the hustler, then American public opinion damned it and demanded the guilty be scourged. But more often the great scams in American politics and business, from the Transcontinental Railroad to urban machines, could be perceived as socially beneficial, for instance by opening up new opportunities for the many or keeping immigrants under control. In those cases Americans winked at the means employed to pursue the ends, or else applauded the authors of creative corruption, just as their colonial forbears had smuggled, cooked the books, and rioted against customs agents and Redcoats rather than obey the Navigation Acts.

The message today is clear. Not only do the real estate bubble, sub-prime scandal, Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac monkey business, and allegedly philanthropic Ponzi schemes like Bernie Madoff’s clearly fall into the category of destructive corruption, their scale has increased by many orders of magnitude from the hundreds of millions of dollars lost in the S&L bailouts and insider trading scandals, to the billions lost in the junk bond and Enron scandals, to the trillions lost in the sub-prime lending scandal. Typically, the sub-prime mortgage scam masqueraded as a charitable, patriotic enterprise insofar as it helped millions of indigent citizens to realize their American Dream of home ownership. Typically, government functioned as an accessory to the crime. Thus did former Fed Chairman Alan Greenspan confess to the error of trusting banks to regulate themselves, and former Treasury Secretary Larry Summers confess that the illusion of virtue made it impossible to regulate Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac. Typically, as Warren Buffett remarked, the innovators of the get-rich-quick scheme were followed by the imitators and at last by the idiots such that sub-prime loans by 2005 totaled $625 billion, or 20 percent of all new mortgages.

Needless to say, the speculative greed of the many—the suckers—is what enables the few to pull off their uncreative destruction. But not only the greedy get hurt when one of these bubbles bursts or scams explodes. Widows and orphans, pensioners, the unemployed, and the destitute, not only in the U.S. but around the world, suffer the most when Americans contrive to wreck their own economy for a season. Consequently, the hustling and corruption that Samuel Huntington once argued were natural and even healthy companions of social progress, and which I once celebrated as a sort of shady virtue that helped explain America’s spectacular growth, now appear to me as a vice and, at its worst, a sin whose wages are death. Surely that is part of what Moby-Dick was all about. But even more prophetic was Melville’s The Confidence Man: His Masquerade, a satirical exposé of the crooked national soul that was published in 1858, just three years before Americans took to drowning each other’s sins, both southern and northern, in each other’s blood.

Of course, the orthodox Yankee strain of American Civil Religion had no difficulty absorbing that national Calvary. In analogies made ad nauseam in Walt Whitman’s war poetry and northern war sermons, the Union dead were like countless Christs, Lincoln was the martyred Christ killed on Good Friday, and the Civil War’s bloodshed was the atonement that purged America’s original sin of slavery and purified her for the divinely appointed mission to redeem the world. Of course, nothing could be more heretical. In the Bible Jesus is the spotless, immaculate Lamb of God, who volunteered to shed his own blood, out of infinite love, in order to cleanse the sins of others. The Union dead in the Civil War were flawed creaturely beings who involuntarily shed their blood while striving, out of hatred and fear, to shed the blood of their countrymen, in order to cleanse their own national sins. That is not to say that angels weren’t in that whirlwind. On the contrary, Lincoln’s Second Inaugural Address might have been truly inspired. But that would only prove that Lincoln was right to pay obeisance to the inscrutable sovereignty of the Almighty rather than identify the United States, much less himself, with divinity.

And yet, that is just what the high priests and prophets of American Civil Religion, from Philip Freneau and Tom Paine, to John O’Sullivan and Walt Whitman, to Benjamin Strong and Woodrow Wilson, have done: endow the United States and/or the American people with messianic qualities and therefore interpret American history as a progressive revelation. Since the late eighteenth century Deists, Masons, Protestants of all sorts, and at last even Roman Catholics have kept the torch of this Civil Religion lit and advancing into the future. In our day the neocons fulfill that priestly function. Thus has William Kristol preached since the 1990s that pursuit of national greatness and the militant export of Americanism would also, through some unspecified alchemy, elevate and reform our domestic soul and society. Thus has Robert Kagan praised Americans for the fact that their national creed does not acknowledge original sin, but calls the nation and all mankind to perfection. Thus has David Gelernter proclaimed Americanism, in his book of 2007, to be nothing less than The Fourth Great Western Religion.6 He even insists that this Americanism, or American Zionism, or New American Covenant, is not an idolatrous civil religion, but a genuine Biblical religion that simply transcends Judaism, Christianity, and what he calls Puritanism. Thus has Zealous Nationalism, as analyzed by Robert Jewett in his 1973 classic The Captain America Complex, affixed itself to the American flag.

So what have I learned by writing Freedom Just Around the Corner and Throes of Democracy? Evidently, to judge by the reviewers, what I have learned is ironic, irreverent, cynical, and quirky. I’m not going to go into detail here. First, because it would bore those who have read my books. Second, because it would give others an excuse not to read them. Suffice it to say, I learned that Americans have always been hustlers both in the positive and pejorative senses; that they have almost always justified their ambition, avarice, expectations, and contempt for constraints by selective, self-serving appeals to Providence; that they are expert at the self-deception, pretense, amnesia, and procrastination that help a vast, diverse democracy to cohere; that their sacred lives, liberties, and pursuits of happiness amount to feeling good about doing well; that they perfected the worship of both God and Mammon through a chiliastic American Civil Religion conflating material plenty with spiritual grace, and have thereby managed to dispense with tragedy, irony, limits, and original sin; that they respond ferociously to any person, institution, law, ideology, or foreign power that dares interfere with their headlong flight into a future; that they make it an article of faith that change is good; hence that the only acceptable conservatism—at least since the Civil War—is one that conserves all the above against those who critique it from the Left or the Mugwump Right. That is not to say the American Civil Religion is inflexible. On the contrary, like the imperial cult of the Roman Empire it devours all new gods and cults in the name of tolerance so long as they burn incense to the overarching civil faith that guarantees free exercise of sectarian faiths. In their Enlightenment-scientific-technological-engineering-business-consumer mode, Americans are a vast Masonic Lodge, with every citizen a master builder helping to finish that unfinished pyramid under the All-Seeing Eye that appears on our dollar bill and Great Seal. In their Reformation-theological-teleological-mystical-magical-missionary mode, Americans are the New Israel marching together into a New Promised Land that someday will unite the whole human race.

Now, a faith that one’s nation is “under God” and possessed of a Providential mission can be a mighty force multiplier in time of war, and source of patience, forbearance, and charity in time of domestic travail. But the belief that one’s nation is under divine protection can also breed a dangerous complacency that encourages national procrastination and in fact tempts the Lord thy God, over and over again. And the belief that one’s nation has a mission can breed hubris of the sort that causes one’s legions to be dispatched “a bridge too far” over and over again.

So is McDougall a paleoconservative in despair like Poe, despondent like Melville, or cynical like Twain? So some have said. But while writing these books I have taken heart from the discovery that McDougall isn’t so strange. On the contrary I have noticed the great cloud of witnesses who have explored the same American shores as I have on what Harvey Sicherman has called “Walter’s voyage of self-discovery,” and have come to similar conclusions about what makes Americans tick. There’s Harriet Martineau and Philip Schaff, Nathaniel Hawthorne and Orestes Brownson, Henry Adams and G. K. Chesterton, George Santayana and Randolph Bourne, Irving Babbitt and H. L. Mencken, Reinhold and Richard Niebuhr, George Kennan and John Lukacs.

There’s Russell Kirk, who wrote in The Wise Men Know What Wicked Things Are Written On the Sky: “In international affairs . . . the United States needs to beware of what Sir Herbert Butterfield calls ‘righteousness’. . . . Even a massive assertion of American power, a crusade for ‘human rights’, might destroy more than it could restore.” Kirk also quoted Boorstin to the effect that the U.S. Constitution is “not for export,” and warned that freedom in the abstract is “the liberty in whose name crimes are committed.”7

There’s Angelo Codevilla, whose recent book Advice to War Presidents: A Remedial Course in Statecraft reinforces my point about how Americans twist their language in order to deceive themselves: “. . . when reality is bitter, when the things that are differ from what we wish, we sugarcoat them with euphemisms or put our own wishes’ names on them. Thus, hoping to transform our surroundings, we fool ourselves . . . .”8 There’s Cambridge Professor David Runciman, whose new book Political Hypocrisy: The Mask of Power, From Hobbes to Orwell and Beyond echoes another of my points with his cardinal rule that “liberal democratic politics are only sustainable if mixed with a certain amount of dissimulation and pretence.”9

There’s Darrin McMahon’s 2006 book Happiness: A History, which traces the prevalent unhappiness of Americans to the “enlightened optimists” of the eighteenth century who drew on Newton and Locke to justify jettisoning Christian anthropology in favor of a human race “unstained by original sin, programmed for pursuit of pleasure, and ready, willing, and able to improve their earthly lot.” The central question for Western Civilization ceased to be “How can I be saved?” and became instead “How can I be happy?” Pursuing their happiness, Americans chained themselves to a hedonistic treadmill.10

Not least, there’s Claes Ryn, whose America the Virtuous diagnosed our contemporary maladies in both foreign policy and domestic life even as I was seeking their germs in history. He traced those maladies to the hegemony of a neo-Jacobin ideology, which I think I am safe in saying overlaps if not coincides with what I call the Civil Religion or Crusader State. Ryn asks, “What is neo-Jacobin moralism and ideology if not a sanction for imperialism?” Precisely so. We Americans pretend we’re a peace-loving people and that our wars have all been foisted upon us. But the United States, as Ryn explains, is an Enlightened or Ideological Republic that has slipped its constitutional moorings, and become a Fighting Faith.11 To that I would add that the United States is the flip-side of a Divine Right Monarchy, which is to say a Divine Right Republic which—like Oliver Cromwell’s Commonwealth, the Dutch United Provinces, and Puritan New England before it—has behaved as if its wars were all holy wars.

But what if they really have been holy wars, or Americans just believe they have been? What, in short, if Robert Kagan is correct that the U.S. has always been a Dangerous Nation destined to overthrow despotism everywhere? What if, as he only half-jokingly claimed, George Washington was a neocon? If that is the case, then must we self-styled conservatives all join the crusade because, in America, to be conservative is to be radical? Or let us say Kagan’s history is bogus, but his neo-Jacobin or neo-Cromwellian War Party ethos has nonetheless conquered the political and cultural heights and achieved an Establishment status that only the Loony Left challenges? If that is the case, then must traditional conservatives resign ourselves to a tactical alliance with whichever faction we deem the lesser of two evils?

What does an earnest conservative do when he discovers that the country he loves has defined love of country as something false, something spoon fed (quoting Claes Ryn again) to a “morally and culturally deteriorating society” by a long-distance “plebiscitary regime” that fashions its own reality like Big Brother’s Ministry of Truth? What if, in the American public square—governed as it is by hustle, pretense, demagogy, and vanity—we have reached the point at which the sham is authentic and the authentic is sham?

Sound paranoid? Maybe it is, but it was Richard Gamble who suggested in The American Conservative that we might have deceived ourselves about Ronald Reagan, no less, because, his virtues notwithstanding, he re-validated our habit of getting and spending and borrowing and calling it the American Dream. “Maybe, the Reagan we think we remember is the very thing most likely to distract us from painful self-examination and serious reckoning with who we are as a people and how we got this way.”12 In another essay called “Wilsonian Slaughter,” Gamble warned, “Any effort to build a post-Wilsonian foreign policy will have to deal honestly with American evangelicalism’s historic role in reorienting the church and the state toward social activism and global meliorism. Righteous interventionism appeals to our national vanity and piety. We have to face the fact that there is something deeply and authentically American about Wilsonianism.”13

There it is. In domestic and foreign policy alike the sort of conservatism many of us embrace isn’t conservative at all in an upside-down culture that wishes away sin and vice or else redefines them as civic virtues. Pretense, pride, and greed are authentic American qualities, while humility, sanctity, and thrift are un-American.

That is why it now seems to me that our real culture wars are not being waged between “God and country” conservatism on the one side and multicultural secular liberalism on the other. It now seems to me that our real culture wars are waged between Civil Religion on the one side and Christian orthodoxy on the other.

What would a real conservatism look like today: a spirited, comely conservatism that could demonstrate William F. Buckley’s claim that “the wells of regeneration are infinitely deep”? Well, it cannot be just a reactive, resistant conservatism. As a young European historian I used to believe all true conservatism must be reactive because it never occurred to people like Burke or Metternich to be self-conscious conservatives until their legitimate, established order was radically challenged. I added my puckish personal definition to the effect that a conservative is someone who knows that things could be worse than they are—period! But American history has now helped me to realize that conservatism is the genuine flip-side of the counterfeit civil religion exploited by neolibs, radicals, and neocons (in other words, Claes Ryn’s New Jacobins). They promise vacuous freedom and equality, while they strut proudly, worship the self, and try to bend the world to their will. Conservatives, by contrast, long to do justice, love mercy, walk humbly, and try to bend the self to God’s will. How glorious it would be if some new revival, some Great Awakening, inspired the Gen X and Gen Y Americans to want to restore a conservative culture, whereupon politics would take care of themselves. But the most likely, if ironic, prospect (as has been the case since Valley Forge) is that the civic virtue of a righteous remnant will provide just enough moral capital to sustain a Republic of Hustlers.


1. “La croce salva la giente,” quoted in Jonathan Riley-Smith, ed., Oxford Illustrated History of the Crusades (Oxford: Oxford University Press, 1995), 105.

2. Daniel Boorstin, The Image, or, What Happened to the American Dream (London: Weidenfeld & Nicholson, 1961).

3. Walter A. McDougall, Promised Land, Crusader State (Boston: Houghton Mifflin Co., 1997), 220.

4. Walter A. McDougall, Freedom Just Around the Corner: A New American History 1585-1828 (New York: HarperCollins, 2004).

5. Walter A. McDougall, Throes of Democracy: The American Civil War Era 1829-1877 (New York: HarperCollins, 2008).

6. David Gerlernter, Americanism: The Fourth Great Western Religion (New York: Doubleday, 2007).

7. Russell Kirk, The Wise Men Know What Wicked Things Are Written On the Sky (Washington: Regnery Gateway, 1987), 40-41, 107.

8. Angelo Codevilla, Advice to War Presidents: A Remedial Course in Statecraft (New York: Basic Books, 2009), 5.

9. David Runciman, Political Hypocrisy: The Mask of Power, From Hobbes to Orwell and Beyond (Princeton: Princeton University Press, 2008).

10. Darrin M. McMahon, Happiness: A History (New York: Atlantic Monthly Press, 2006).

11. Claes G. Ryn, America the Virtuous: The Crisis of Democracy and the Quest for Empire (New Brunswick and London: Transaction Publishers, 2003).

12. Richard Gamble, “How Right Was Reagan?” The American Conservative (May 4, 2009), 6-9. For a more extensive treatment of Reagan’s imagination and its impact on American society, see Justin Garrison, “A Covenant with All Mankind: Ronald Reagan’s Idyllic Vision of America in the World,” Humanitas 21:1-2 (2008), 34-63.

13. Richard Gamble, “Wilsonian Slaughter,” The American Conservative (February 23, 2009), 30-32.

Walter A. McDougall is the Alloy-Ansin Professor of International Relations at the University of Pennsylvania and Chair of the Foreign Policy Research Institute’s Center for the Study of America and the West.


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  1. Good luck making self-restraint, humility, chastity, self-sacrifice and an appreciation for the darkened heart of man..comely to the modern eye. You’ll be lucky if the Committee of Itching Ears doesn’t banish you for heresy just for interrupting the Leviathan while he’s speaking.

  2. This is a powerful essay that attends to some significant narratives that guide our collective efforts. I hope to see some interaction with it by FPR contributors.

  3. Albert,
    In the print edition of “Humanitas” there are two responses by FPR fellow-travellers, Michael Federici and Richard Gamble, and a brief response by McDougall. I’ll try to respond as well in coming days, and also hope others will. Suffice to say, I couldn’t put McDougall’s essay down, and find in it a powerful indictment of the age.

  4. But everyone from the Radical Vatican II twits like Chittister and John Dear to the Fundiegelicals believes that’s what s/he’s already doing-but they’re never going to agree. Religion is part of the problem; you’re not going to get a coalition out of Jesse Jackson, Louis Farrakhan, Martin Marty and V. Gene Robinson for anything other than larger government programs.
    And your own church is poised to reach the same number of members it had under Coolidge. Mainline Protestantism has become “Mother Jones” at prayer, the mirror image of the Fundiegelicals. The only real differences between them? Socio-economic.

  5. I found this piece bracing and compelling. I’ll likely be returing to it (and Pt. 1) to glean further insights.

    Thanks fo the thoughtful words, Prof. McD0ugall; I fear they’re all too true.

  6. I didn’t want to read the whole essay, not even part one, but as Patrick said, I couldn’t put it down. Wonderful stuff. I will keep saying I am a Conservative, though I’m far from and often dismayed by the Grand Old Party…

  7. Yes, this is a very good essay.

    One minor quibble, re: “Of course, nothing could be more heretical. ” The theologization of the Civil War was a rather mild exercize in religious nationalism compared to some of the stuff we got from Europe during the heyday of Church-State incest, with its God-guarded empires, divinely-sacred monarchs and Holy Mother nations.

  8. Prof. McDougall,

    This essay was so powerful. It encapsulates my own struggles during my later years at Patrick Henry College (Dr. Mark Mitchell was a helpful guide during this time). These are enormous questions which investigate the American experiment itself. Something helpful to consider: there is the American political theory of consent (based on the Puritans) and the American political theory of accident (which you see in the Anglicans of Virginia). For the most part, the idea of consent won out, whether we call for a “national covenant” or a “national contract,” both are voluntary membership. The accidental is based more on birth or nature, upon which traditionalist conservatism (or perhaps Lukacs’ term of “reactionary” is more appropriate) rests more easily; you see it in the works of Fitzhugh, Calhoun, the Agrarians, and Ranolph of Roanoke. Henry Adams reminisces about this path-not-taken in Democracy: a Novel with the character Carrington. Perhaps this is a stream we could hold onto and channel? At least in our own families?

  9. This essay is outstanding. Seems like everytime I come to FPR I have to add new books to my reading list.

    “The theologization of the Civil War was a rather mild exercize in religious nationalism compared to some of the stuff we got from Europe during the heyday of Church-State incest, with its God-guarded empires, divinely-sacred monarchs and Holy Mother nations.”

    But wasn’t the Enlightenment supposed to have made us say goodbye to all that? Apparently some folks didn’t get the memo.

    While the CW’s religious nationalism may have been mild compared to that of times past, it certainly was a rather strong manifestation in terms of the history of the U.S. republic.

  10. You know, I’ve been walking around with an odd sense we’re just going in circles. Judith Miller might as well have been writing for Pulitzer about the Maine, just changed a few of the particulars.

    I’ve got a lot of appreciation for Twain, but deciding on holding the Philipines, despite the decades of war with Auginaldo, maybe turned out to be important. Hard to know – I suppose impossible. Anyway, the ambiguity has tempered my unlearned disdain of the neocons, seeing how 1898 is as good a mark as any for what was coming. Makes me wonder what’s around the bend.
    Thanks for posting, Professor.

  11. The Civil War recreated the American nation. I know some people here are not happy with that fact, but that temptation should be avoided: the recreation of the USA is inseparable from the ending of the early republic’s besetting sin, slavery; you cannot pine for the first without acquiescing in the second. And Mr Franklin’s words in 1776 apply to this as well: if we do not hang together we may hang separately.
    The really curious thing is that the Civil War is the first time, really, when religion was invoked to sacre our history. There’s none of that involved in the Revolution (despite some recent latter day attempts at revisionism). Our break-up with Mother England was pretty much a secular affair and while devout Americans of the time no doubted prayed over it, they did not spin holy myths about it.

  12. “Our break-up with Mother England was pretty much a secular affair and while devout Americans of the time no doubted prayed over it, they did not spin holy myths about it.”

    Ditto the Second American Revolution, except for the holy myths. The spinning of which, by the way, in no way confirms or otherwise validates the sacredness of the cause on either side.

  13. I’m not sure how I can respond this essay other than to say it is the most brilliant thing I have read in months. I can’t disagree with a word.

    (I was especially pleased to see Herbert Butterfield cited and Walt Whitman put in his proper place.)

  14. Utopia is a hard liquor causing ferocious hangovers.

    Walt Whitman has no proper place, he is simply Walt Whitman.

    The ignored depredations on innocent woman and children in the Philippines led directly to further cockeyed schemes throughout both the Levant and the Orient.

    The fundamental beauty of this country is that beyond all others, it allows one to create their own reality while keeping lines of communication open with contrary thought. Skepticism, beyond all else is the chief victim of the cloying decay of American Exceptionalism.

    Do I not think this an exceptional nation? Surely it is but the truncheon of exceptionalism foisted upon the jingo-weary citizen generally contradicts the essential human history with a State Sponsored Mythological Conceit.

    Simply put, we possess a discursive form of government and ought should try and use it again rather than reciting chapter and verse of popular taste.

  15. Simply put, we possess a discursive form of government and ought should try and use it again rather than reciting chapter and verse of popular taste.

    Which way of using “discursive” do you mean, Mr. Sabin? (I’d agree with your sentiment in either sense, but I’m still curious.)

  16. The “fluent and expansive” definition of “discursive” of course. Free of fear that one might be violating precious donor conceits. A full and fearless embrace of the potentials and pitfalls of the human mind…a kind of suspended presumption and celebration of one’s opponent without losing one’s self in “consensus”.

    This was once termed a “full hearing”. But that was in the prosaic era of Town Meetings when what people voted upon actually came to fruition.

  17. Great essay. A couple of thoughts — I think many “Fundiegelicals” (as Mr. Nixon is Lord, calls them) are losing faith in Americanism. Whether this is a temporary development or not — we’ll see. I hope it is permanent. If so, the Liberals are in a heap of trouble. A couple of years ago I was at the Air Force Academy in Colorado. In the visitors center they had a map of the US with pins indicating where each of the incoming Freshmen were from — of 1,000 pins — 6 were located in the New England states — about 250 were in Texas alone — I’ll let you guess where the rest were. If the Fundiegelicals turn against the country that will be the end of Wilsonianism right there.

    Liberal Democracies need religion to survive — without it, as Stanley Hauerwas notes, asking someone to die for one is like asking someone to give his life for the phone company.

  18. Then why are so many successful liberal democracies virtually agnostic? The places on Earth that have the highest levels of religious practice are often the most dysfunctional; those with lower levels of religious practice are often safer and cleaner and less corrupt.

  19. “Then why are so many successful liberal democracies virtually agnostic?”

    Funny, but I don’t remember any of them starting out that way.

  20. Thanks to FPR for posting my remarks and thanks to the kind respondents. I’m not exactly a best-seller like David McCullough, so I really appreciate all feedback, pro or con (especially evidence that I have touched younger minds).

    Only Americans can wreck America.

  21. Don’t be too quick to dismiss potential allies on the “loony left.” Those of us who are decentralist anti authoritarians also oppose the hubris of massive Federal projects like interstate highways, dam projects, and globe girding empire. We too would like to see a return to a more local town meeting based democracy,

    and place a great deal of importance on local agriculture and supporting farmers markets, local hardware stores, food co-ops, and other bulwarks against the hubris of empire and corporatism.

    While we may disagree on the importance of religion, and may support some aspects of “multiculturalism” (though in my case without the p.c. moralizing overtones) IMO these differences are less important than a common goal of opposing the hubris of empire, and knowing that unlimited growth is “the philosophy of the cancer cell,” to quote Edward Abbey. More people than you may think on the Green left are reading authors like you and Bill Kauffman and taking the ideas seriously, and it is my hope that after the empire collapses that we can all be good neighbors and work together to rebuild a country ruined by greed, hubris, and imperial overextension.


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