At the film festival in Cannes this past summer and at the Toronto film festival in the fall, Nick Cassavetes brought to the screen his new film Yellow.  It is about a woman mired in addictions, haunted by scrambled memories, and living in chaos. I admit that I have not seen the film. My description is taken from trailers and reviews I found on the Internet. There have been many films about tortured souls and self-destructive addicts, and I doubt this new film will capture the imagination of audiences on the poignancy of those themes alone. Yellow is getting attention, however, because it pushes another boundary. It plays on the theme of incest.

Incest is not a new theme in drama. Sophocles wrote Oedipus Rex 2,500 years ago, and since Freud reintroduced this Greek tragedy into psychoanalytic theory a century ago, it has been played on stage, portrayed by film, and studied in college classrooms. Therapists know that thoughts about incest and actual boundary violations in families are not as unusual as most people think. Nevertheless clients who tell these stories usually believe that breaking the taboo sets them apart, and the shame is painfully isolating.

Cassavetes revives the drama of incest once again, but he is no Sophocles. In fact, the contrast could not be starker. Sophocles explored the tragic possibility that mistakes made by fathers continue as a burden for their children. Despite every effort to escape them, hidden misdeeds keep torquing the course of fate. Sophocles suggested that there is no way to erase the violations of honor and duty without facing them and paying the price. Fate is relentless and just.

In discussing his new film with a reporter from The Wrap, Cassavetes takes the opposite view.  He explains that “the whole movie is about judgment, and lack of it, and doing what you want.” We should be able to love who we want, Cassavetes asserts. “If it’s your brother or sister it’s super-weird, but if you look at it, you’re not hurting anybody except every single person who freaks out because you’re in love with one another.”

I don’t know if I will see Cassavetes’ film, but what he has said in this interview strikes me as interesting in its own right. It voices a modern, all-purpose trope that we hear so often it barely stops us for a second thought. It is the idea that “freedom” is the principle that trumps all other concerns, and that what other people do is not our business. Put simply in Cassavetes’ words, “Who gives a damn?” What other people think of us should be of little concern to us.  Again, to use Cassavetes’ words, “Who gives a shit if people judge you?”

The filmmaker claims we all should be able to do as we like as long as it doesn’t hurt anybody. If we can convince ourselves that we are not hurting anybody—except those who are freaking out—then it should be green lights all the way. Not only is this Nick Cassavetes’ view of incest, but it also appears to be his take on morality in general. His view is shared widely by those who believe that escaping the strictures of external rules is a new mark of “virtue.”

The “new virtue” is the undaunted will of an individual who will not tolerate external interference. It is paired with a “new vice,” which is being judgmental about what someone else does. According to this view, problems arise not from the choices people make, but from the judgments other people make about those choices. Although I am not certain what Cassavetes thinks about incest, because the central character of his film is deeply troubled, it is clear from his interview in The Wrap that he thinks freaking out, i.e. being judgmental, is not a good thing.

Questioning freedom is not popular these days, and it is hard to defend judgment. I do not have in mind here the liberties established by the constitution. Thankfully these liberties are protected, and were they not, it is certain that some would gladly intrude on them. But there is another sort of freedom, quite unlike the liberty protected by the constitution. It is the “freedom” to do what you like as long as you can assert that you are not hurting anyone.  And therein lies the problem.

Unconsidered freedom, and the rhetoric built around it, can be used as a Trojan horse for spiriting in a defense of mindlessness. Accusations of being judgmental too often are directed toward those who ask questions about whether an action does, in fact, hurt anyone. Defenders of undefined freedom resent being asked to think about the consequences of their actions, because being questioned might raise doubts about whether they are good people.

Despite his put-down of freaking out, and despite the possibility that some people might feel threatened by questions, Cassavetes owes us the space to put forth some concerns that challenge his conclusions about love without limits and judgment be damned.

  •  Is incest really so private an act that others in the extended system of family loyalty are not hurt by it if they know about it, or even if they don’t?
  • Romantic attachments are not always entirely balanced. One party may be emotionally committed while the other is still tentative. Sometimes attachment occurs gradually and without intention, but in other instances it does not survive the test of time. You can distance from your friend or break up with your boyfriend, but your brother will always be your brother. Temporary relationships and broken commitments damage families.
  • Given the fact that family members are not the same age, and that age and role differences are also power differences, incest may exploit unequal power among family members. Within the family circle some members over eighteen do not qualify as independent, consenting adults.
  • The original family is meant to be a safe place for children to grow protected from violation. How, then, would a family determine when and how to suspend the rules in order to call in the era of sexual freedom without hurting some of its members? Exactly whose call would it be?
  • Justifications of “no babies intended”seem not to consider that unintended pregnancies are still common, and dealing with them is often more emotionally painful for women than for men.
  • Actions that may seem simple at the moment may no longer seem uncomplicated after the passage of time. That is one of the reasons that thoughtfulness includes being willing to learn from the experience of others (thank you Sophocles).  And that is one of the reasons that long-term considerations often have more depth than snap decisions, especially when desire is part of the picture. Family relationships are not short-term, and when they are treated as if they are, it is usually the cause for deep hurt.
  • The kind of love that Cassavetes has in mind is that most closely tied to desire, and while sometimes love comes to expression in desire, it is also the case that desire may come to expression without love at all. Ask college students about hook-up culture in which there is plenty of desire, but as little love as possible. It’s intended that way because, in the transient court of self-interest, love asks too much.
  • On the surface of it, the context of mindless freedom makes love seem unquestionably good, but in the jungles of random sex, participants are frequently hurt by opportunistic encounters. Some who have been part of hook-up culture look back on it as a more hurtful chapter in their lives than ever they could have predicted at the time. Perhaps it is for this reason that many who think they should be free to do as they please also refer to these sexual acts using a vocabulary that would not be printable on Front Porch Republic.

The list could go on, but these are sufficient to make the point. Cassavetes’ bold statements about love, freedom, judgment, and freaking out sweep right past many points worthy of reflection. His defense of loving who you want, limits be damned, is cobbled together from buzzwords that invite us to jump to conclusions without considering consequences. This is freedom in a dangerous form.

I put up the caution flag when I hear someone say, “What’s wrong with (fill in the blank) if it is not hurting anybody?” There are many ways to fill in that blank in many different arenas of life.  Often the question is a rhetorical device used to gloss over ambivalence. We use the excuse of nobody getting hurt when it is actually unclear if anyone is being harmed and we do not want to bother thinking about it thoroughly enough to take responsibility for our actions. We use it to silence those who challenge us. That is the function this catchy phrase often serves in the rhetoric of individual freedom.

My point is this. The ethic that makes everything permissible as long as it passes the knee-jerk judgment that nobody is being hurt is a rather shallow ethic. Too often, it is tangled up with an equally shallow assumption that we are not hurting ourselves if we get what we want at the moment, and we are not hurting anyone else if whoever is involved agrees. Sadly, these claims to unmeasured freedom promote a dangerous trajectory, one toward shedding conscience and discounting moral reflection. The next step is the habit of assuming that I should not be pushed to think about things I prefer not to think about, because that will get in the way of the freedom to which I have a right.

Being scrupulous is no longer considered a good thing in many places where being freewheeling and easy-going are admired more. At the risk of being considered old-fashioned and somber, I am willing to assert that consciously moral individuals understand the value of being questioned. They may not enjoy it, but they do respect it. I also understand that standing up for moral reflection may be discounted as freaking out. Now that is something about which I would be willing to say, “Who gives a damn!”


Mary VanderGoot, Ph.D., is a licensed psychologist, an experienced psychotherapist, and the author of After Freedom: How Boomers Pursued Freedom, Questioned Virtue, and Still Search for Meaning (Cascade Books, 2012).

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  1. A very useful piece, in that it addresses one of the few perversions the Left has yet to (openly) embrace. I think the reason no one is engaging it relates to how quickly Orwellian PC can change a position from being inconceivable — and hence undiscussed — to being unquestionable — and hence undiscussed. (For instance, had someone claimed in 1980 that the Democratic Party would soon be pushing gay marriage, he’d have been denounced for concocting such an outrageous and defamatory prediction; now anyone who questions the DP’s push for gay marriage is denounced for bigotry.)

    Likewise, at present nobody sees anything in this post to argue about. Incest? Yuk! Of course — of COURSE — nobody’s arguing for THAT.

    But twenty years or so from now, who knows? It could easily be that following a (very fleeting and faux) public debate on the subject, the liberal magisterium will render its judgment, and then this little essay will place Dr. Vander Goot beyond the pale of polite posthuman society.

  2. “This is freedom in a dangerous form.”

    How true this is, but it also brings to mind that incest in Northern European mythology is a very common theme, and if we believe the Rees brothers (“Celtic Heritage”) this is precisely because it was uncommon and taboo in normal life. Examples in Norse epic include Sigurd the dragon slayer, who was conceived by his mother with her brother in an act of revenge against her husband who had killed her father, and King Hrolf Kraki whose father was introduced to and later married his daughter as an act of revenge by her mother.

    One aspect of the dangers, I think if we are to be accepting of human nature here, is that there is power in that danger. As an extraordinary act, it becomes filled with extraordinary power both for good and ill.

    But this I think highlights a more hidden danger of the Modernist and Post-modernist phobia of taboos. As we dismantle taboo after taboo, then the only taboos we are left with are those which cause more and more social harm. Perhaps one aspect of needing limits is that we need some that are of lesser harm when they are violated.

    In this regard I am reminded of the story of Cain and Abel and what made them separate. Abel sacrificed animals. Cain only grew plants. One possible interpretation is that because Cain lacked the violent aspects of Abel’s life these grew unchecked until they erupted in murder.

    it may be that we need such taboos more than we think.

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